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Originally posted by tayyabsaeedkhan tayyabsaeedkhan wrote:

Can you please compare Waldner Legend carbon and Ovtcharov carbospeed to any BTY carbon blades. That would be very kind of you .

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I would say the closest to both is the Amultart, but I think the Waldner Legend is a bit softer and more controlled.  Not sure about the Carbospeed.
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Carbospeed also plays softer than Amultart. But maybe the Sardius is closer because the Amultart has zylon which gives it a very specific feel compared to other hinoki-carbon blades. 
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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

Carbospeed also plays softer than Amultart. But maybe the Sardius is closer because the Amultart has zylon which gives it a very specific feel compared to other hinoki-carbon blades. 
 
Ah, yes good point.  I've never used a Sardius - difficult to get them now.  Reading the reviews, it looks to be heavier (on average) and faster, but the regular carbon is going to be closer in feel than the Amultart's ZLC.
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Well thanks for your input.
Going to order one and will test it.
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Does anybody know if you can get the blade with an anatomic handle?
How does it compare to the Carbotox as thats what i am currently using.
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so do you guys like it better than BTY blades?
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Originally posted by Carryboy Carryboy wrote:

UPDATED!!! With pictures

you mean in your previous post right there correct? Tongue
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Originally posted by Big Looper Big Looper wrote:

Does anybody know if you can get the blade with an anatomic handle?
How does it compare to the Carbotox as thats what i am currently using.
thanksSmile

Are you asking for the Waldner or the Ovtcharov blade? 
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Come on guys - any reviews on the Ovtcharov blade??  I would love a comparison between the Waldner Legend and the Ovtcharov Carbon!!!!!
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I am asking about the new waldner blade.
I am currently using the donic carbotox and would like to know how it compares to the new waldner blade if anybody has had the two blades.
From what i have read about the difference between the waldner legend and the new ovtcharov is the centre ply is slightly thicker on the ovtcharov  not 100% sure though.
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I will get the Waldner blade soon and will try to make a comparison with the Ovtcharov. 
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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

I will get the Waldner blade soon and will try to make a comparison with the Ovtcharov. 
 
I'm going the other way - hope to get a Carbospeed soon.
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Hokay, so I got a Carbospeed today. Comparing the plies to the Legend, the core is a lot thicker, but the hinoki outers look thinner to me. So the overall thickness is a little bigger, but not as much as I was expecting.

Short robot session gives me the impression that the Carbospeed feels more solid on punch shots, has no vibration (Legend has a bit), very little flex (if any), harder overall feel. Using M3 and comparing back-to-back, I could get a bigger arc on FH loops with the Legend, but hitting flat and driving on the BH was more consistent with the Carbospeed. Ideally, I want to chop these blades in half and glue then together to get the best of both worlds, but in the absence of that I'll use a couple of training sessions to see what fits best. My instinct tells me to go with the Carbospeed and tone down my FH a bit, but I will miss the Legend's crazy FH looping...
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Andy what is the weight of your Carbospeed?? When you refer to toning down the forehand do you mean something slower than M3, assuming that you are using M3 on your forehand.

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I also have a Carbospeed on order and was thinking of the M3 for forehand.
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It's 87g. The M3 is excellent on the forehand. When I mentioned calming it down, I just meant slowing myself down a bit. Fewer wild swings. Can't see myself changing from M3 on the forehand for a while.
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+1 M3 is a great FH rubber. Sounds like the Waldner Legend is quite the blade, pity they don't make it with a real handle.
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Thanks for letting me know andysith, will order a sheet of M3 for forehand. What are you using for backhand? Also how would you describe the throw of the carbo speed in comparison to the legend? Lower??
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I really, really wanted to use M3 on the BH as well, but I just couldn't get it to work for me. So I'm deciding between Acuda S3 and Sigma Europe.

Yeah, Carbospeed is slightly lower throw than Legend.
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My Waldner is on the way will let you guys know what i think of it when it arrives.
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You putting M3/H3 on it or two BF's?
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For M or for A? I thought the blade was for M?
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Well thanks for your input.
Going to order one and will test it.
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so how is the new waldner?
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Can anyone post Ovtcharov carbospeed's in detail review ???
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What is the thickness of Donic Waldner Legend Carbon?  I could not find it anywhere...
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Originally posted by stefashka stefashka wrote:

What is the thickness of Donic Waldner Legend Carbon?  I could not find it anywhere...


6.3mm I think. It's printed on the face of the shakehand blade:

http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/tt-blade-donic-waldner-legend-carbon
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