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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IAmI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/15/2008 at 9:41am
In my opinion MaLin #2 is a side spin serve. Wang returns with a top spin with some good amount of side spin in it. The side spin being not necessarily to trick the opponent but to compensate for the sidespin that was already on the ball from Ma.
The serve, in effect, is very similar to one of the WLQ's favourite serves (jee, it's too hard to describe which one I have in mind, but I love it). Just the action looks totally different as they use different grips.
 
shij421, you kick some pretty serious a$$ with these gifs, thanks!
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bien por Juanito el Zhiwen, trincando de Joola
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thanks so much shij421 that is great,Thumbs%20UpClap
but i couldn't see after 7
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Fabulous & Fantabulous!!!

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the gifs are gone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 729 FX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/03/2009 at 10:25pm
Yes, going, going gone.
 
But I must say this, the gif.s are informative.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stiltt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/04/2009 at 1:36am
Actually I have a backup of that 53 MB page somewhere in my archives (I did not want to load all those 53MB each time I wanted to study a serve). I could host the gifs on my online space and edit all the posts (no change in what we see...). what do you think shij?
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What the heck? I did it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jpenlover Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/23/2010 at 11:54am
This is great! Thanks for the effort. I can finally see how Ma Lin flip the ball.
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omg AWESOME!!!!!!! I love #9! I love em all!!!! Clap
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Nice thanks :D I can play around and experiment my service, I love the #14 it has a short spin, almost a dead ball, good for players who love to drive after a short spin serve, if not the ball will go long and you can play the next ball for offensive move :D 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote APW46 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/02/2010 at 9:30am
Originally posted by MANOLETE MANOLETE wrote:

bien por Juanito el Zhiwen, trincando de Joola
 English language please, if you don't mindSmile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote qynthnghm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/26/2010 at 6:18am
Stared at these for a while at work. Simply awesome and informative. I would particularly love to see some Zhang Jike slow-mo serves.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kitzter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/29/2011 at 9:32pm
more gif pls 
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Aren't these enough for you? If you master these serves, you will have no problem beating opponents much better than you. You know what they say, if your serve is powerful and is good placed, you've almost won the point.

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Very informative.  Thanks for posting these.
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Thanks Fatt, appreciated!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote joshuadn11 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/14/2015 at 3:56pm
Really helpful GIFs once again.

Thanks for the post! Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Leftyy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/15/2015 at 4:48pm
Thanks for the gifs, anyone got some more? Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote shinimai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/08/2016 at 11:52am
I don't know if you guys notice this, but when top players serve short, they move their paddle in a U shape (especially xu xin), meaning they draw back the bat right after contact with the ball.  I've also noticed that their short serves' first bounce is usually near the edge of the table (which is usually for longer serves).
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Man classic post from shij - good forum memories right there!

shinimai you're right, if you can read the first bounce you'll know a lot about the depth of the serve you're facing, a short first bounce is going to be very short.

At my level at least, a short serve better have a good bit of underspin or it's probably dead and can be blasted at will anywhere - super short topspin serves are rare - and the underspin is easy to spot.  If you're serving short keep it low or pay the price.

 Among the pros, "half long" serves that bounce twice or are otherwise close to the edge will have a first bounce closer to the servers end line but become harder to attack.  A weak opening against a half-long ball creates an opportunity: an attackable ball at an ideally predictable location that can be put away.


Edited by chronos - 10/08/2016 at 11:08pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stiltt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/02/2019 at 11:16am
this is an old thread. The gifs are still there but a bandwidth and hosting issue forced the disconnection. To those who can host those gifs, let us know if you want to get them back up.
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Is the link still available for these GIFs?
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For those interested, just for forum historical purposes, the gifs are there all packed in that file.

For the little story, shij421 was...oh yes, I said it already :)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stiltt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/22/2023 at 6:03am
The gifs are back under the form of links, somehow google drive will prevent to display the link as a forum picture or I am doing something wrong.
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