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Trin_hoa_an
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Very old tenergy version! black series font printed in sponge!
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how does it work out
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liberty.sky
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they did.
wang hao used sriver topsheet with bryce sponge for awhile
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mark20
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since before tenergy was introduced to the market. my friend and i have found its equivalent to assembled rubber. what i'm pointing out is its sponge. it is the magic red sponge. it has same characteristics. but the difference is it has to be glued. but when you have glued it, i has the same springy feeling.
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scottymang
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If you don't stretch it the first time, it won't shrink when you take it of the blade.
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Timo Boll ALC + 2x Rakza7 max = Scottymang
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Takadigi
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Why? If you use a good water based glue, you don't have to often peel the rubber off the blade. |
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BKTT
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I found the same problem for Tenergy too - the top sheet wears out too quickly. also, if you remove the rubber from the blade often, it shrinks by a significant amount. now that is a problem if i insist in using water-based glue only. there is a new nittaku hurricane 2 and 3 coming up. hopefully they make some advancement in that sponge. |
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scottymang
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The difference is that the tenergy sponge doesn't become slower.
(It isn't tuned)
It even becomes a bit faster with time.
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Timo Boll ALC + 2x Rakza7 max = Scottymang
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viktorovich
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Hello!
Steam over a teapot nouse
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nicefrog
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I found friendship rubbers just fall apart very easily in hot water too. DHS are stuck harder but still fairly easy. I haven't tried butterfly rubbers
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sebas-aguirre
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I think that haifu II tuned is very similar to your experiment.
it has a tacky topsheet, and the sponge is springy. just tuned, it is far superior than tenergy. after a while, similar or maybe a little less. |
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sebas-aguirre
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I tried boiling a bryce and a sriver l.
I couldn't separate the topsheet from the sponge in either of them. I guess butterfly just sticks them too tight. I could however separate a friendship rubber with that method with no problems. |
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BeaverMD
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@nicefrog and boss, thanks for the assistance. I will boil the Bryce 1.9 tonight and put one of my sticky topsheets on it after it completely dries. Should at least provide a little entertainment.
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scottymang
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THANX Skyline
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Timo Boll ALC + 2x Rakza7 max = Scottymang
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Skyline
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euci oil. that's eucalyptus olie. It helps to restore grip and it has a nice smell too. Joola Spinmax aqua you can get it at most table tennis shops.
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scottymang
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I don't know these products Skyline.
Can you tell me something about them and where can i get them??
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Timo Boll ALC + 2x Rakza7 max = Scottymang
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Skyline
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try some euci oil or spinmax aqua
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scottymang
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Thanx for the translation Bossman.
I used Donic Vario Rubber Remover.
It worked great on the Tenergy and on an old Skyline3.
But that topsheet wasn't tacky anymore so i used a fairly new Skyline3 blue no.21 sponge and that didn't go so well.
A lot of sponge came of with the topsheet.
I think the sponge was just to soft.
Btw. Is there a way to make my old skyline tacky again??
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Timo Boll ALC + 2x Rakza7 max = Scottymang
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Boss1703
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here is a google translated version french to english with some pics too...
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nicefrog
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You boil rubber in the water, when its all 100c grab it out (don't do this if you are a teenager with thin skin :) maybe use tongs if your young and fragile.
Then peel the top sheet off a small amount, it cools very fast so the glue hardens again before you have gone far, then throw it back in the water then repeat until they are seperated. 100c is no where near hot enough to damage rubber or sponge, all it does is soften the glue |
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BeaverMD
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My French is... well, nonexistent. So just to clarify, do I boil the water, then leave it boiling and drop the rubber in while the heat on the stove is still on?
Or boil the water, turn off the burner, and throw the rubber in? I hope the rubber doesn't burn or melt or turn into gummy worms.
I will try this with an old Bryce 1.9mm. I'll either stick a Cream or Tackspeed 2000 topsheet.
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Boss1703
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http://www.tennis-de-table.com/forums/sujet-33321-1.html
here is a methode... it is in french but you can use a translator...
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F.Z.
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@nicefrog
the little damage was because i have had used the otherside too could you write down every step of your method like 1 2 3 ... |
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BTY Timo Boll Spirit ST
FH: tenergy 05 2.1(B) BH: tenergy 64 2.1 (R) |
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nicefrog
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Hey next time boil the rubber in a saucepan then remove about an inch or two of the top sheet then stick it back in the water then another couple inches. This softens the glue enough that the top sheet peels of very easily and doesn't damage the topsheet or sponge (I can see you have ripped holes in your sponge, this wont happen if you boil them). I've been removing all the old sponges I have lately but I still don't know whats the best glue to use to stick them back togther with and where to get such glue in Australia. I'm going to try 729-5 on DHS#19 sponge to see if a softer sponge cures this rubbers problem. Maybe if everyone removes their old sponges and topsheets carefully we can swap some and come up with some good combinations
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Boss1703
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no!
that is a tenergy topsheet on hurricane sponge...
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BeaverMD
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@ F.Z. Let me just say, you are da man! I have tried something like this many years ago. I had a Juic 999 (Attack type I think) so I didn't like the hard sponge. So separated the sponge from an old Mark V and glued the Juic 999 topsheet on the Mark V sponge. Note that this particular Juic 999 topsheet has the Globe 999 brand and I think Juic just adds their name on the topsheet. This was before Juic had their own 999 Elite series which I also like. This was from maybe ten years ago and I still have the rubber. Still tacky and still picks up a ball!
You should write a short review. For my Juic 999 top/Mark V sponge hybrid, it wasn't as good as I expected. The topsheet was too firm that it didn't really let the ball sink in to benefit from the Mark V sponge. However, the sponge was old so it might not have been springy enough. I can say for a fact though that my hybrid is still springier than a new Globe 999/Saviga or a Globe 999/Quattro even now ten years later. Go figure. And anyone who attempts to separate a Japanese topsheet from the sponge has my respect. I used acetone just like you did.
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Takadigi
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Or, Terricane |
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Boss1703
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you can call it hurricanergy!
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Boss1703
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i think wang hao played with a sriver topsheet on a bryce sponge...
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F.Z.
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The problem is that the topsheet of the tenergy is wearing of to fast. This solution is great. Stil one problem...can't get tenergy sponge |
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BTY Timo Boll Spirit ST
FH: tenergy 05 2.1(B) BH: tenergy 64 2.1 (R) |
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