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a FULL h3 neo review |
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palu83xoo
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so i got my new h3 neo in the mail a few weeks ago. been playin with it since then. i play with a donic persson power play which is a softer 5ply wood blade. i should mention that i play with the new chinese style of looping... explanation: chinese players now-a-days keep their rackets at relatively the same angle and adjust the angle that their arm follows through. ill only be reviewing h3 as a forehand side rubber. ill also be comparing it to the sheet that i switched from, tenergy 64. here it goes.
opening/gluing:_________________ holy crap this stuff is tacky. it might be that i havent played h3 since the glue ban but it feels tackier than normal. the sponge is glossy and looks like theres a dry layer of glue on it already. serving:________________________ amazing. sooo much spin on serves. definitely steps up tenergy here. good speed and very easy to control. i feel like i can serve like He Zhi Wen ;) you seriously dont even have to try to make the ball do a "C" on the table. everything stays low too. thumbs up here. 10/10 for serving countering:_____________________ "LOL" counters. it sounds like your hitting with just the wood of the blade! the click is crazy. countering gives you a taste of the control of this rubber. everything goes exactly where i want it to without much effort at all. blocking:_______________________ blocking with this rubber is just great. its so easy to place blocks against even the highest level loops/drives. its easy to control the depth of your blocks as well. much easier to block with h3 than t64. id give h3 neo a 8/10 for blocking. there are rubbers with more control out there, but this one mixes control with other elements very well. looping/counterlooping:___________ this is what the h3 neo was made for. producing low, spinny, and fast loops with ease. which i think it does perfectly. on loop to loop ralleys, the h3 outperforms just about anything ive ever played before. close to the table or at a distance this rubber can just keep dishing out powerful loops. topspinning loop balls close to the table is where this rubber shines. easy to control where your shots go and there is spin for days. opening loops are easy as pie once you get comfortable with this rubber. a perfect 10/10 for looping short game/flipping:____________________ pushing and chopping is nice but a little slow. im not complaining im just saying this is where the h3 neo doesnt do all the work for you "LOL." it does take some effort and good feeling to make fast/short pushes but the spin is there no matter what. lotta lotta backspin from just pushing a ball. flipping is where this rubber lacks a tad. the low angle of the rubber will make you dread flipping if you dont have the feel for it. however if youre experienced with flipping, this rubber is great. your shots will be spinny as all hell and easy to place. for short game i give the h3 neo a 7.5/10 conclusion:____________________________ the h3 neo is my new favorite forehand rubber. good job dhs. i recommend this rubber for players 1700+. the tackiness stays true for about 2 weeks then starts to die down. some paraffin oil can fix that ;) this rubber in the hand of a consistent topspin player can do wondrous things. id give it overall a 8.5/10. h3 neo definitely outloops nimbus v.i.p as well as tenergy 64 if you know how to use it. if you like chinese rubbers, do yourself a favor and pick up some neo. its a great rubber with great feel. you wont be dissapointed. store: www.powerpingpong.com |
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Sallom89
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Nice review o.0
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wyatt
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hmmmm sounds marketing.
if not, that would work well for my style. Anyway, how is the hardness? I think I saw somewhere that H3 are highThrow rubbers, H2 are low.. Or is it just the old versions? |
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jonyer1980
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Is it slower than T64?
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Asaomi
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How is the throw angle low on a hurricane 3? that part did sound marketing. Hurricane 3 has one of the highest throws out there. which also makes it flip rather easy. hmmm question mark.. also dhs' hurricane 3 is made for absolutely everyone just. 5 year old kids in china use it and provincial team use it and national team use it.
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ttrubberman
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Nice review.
But I think that the throw of looping is high. |
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dragon kid
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I don't think he said H3Neo is low throw, He said he can create a low spinny loops with it. It's possible if he loops with a close angled blade..
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nicefrog
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Sounds impressive :), are you doing one for the other rubbers also?or you just played H3?
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nicefrog
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The topsheets and throw have remained the same h3=mid, h2=low, they do play a little different due to the sponge having changed but h3 is still h3 and h2 is still h2 |
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cagaragesales
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Thanks for the referral palu83xoo, but could you specify which Hardness and what color you got from me? I am powerpingpong.com. My own experience with H3NEO on a softer wood ply (OC/CR) was not as good as it was on a harder wood ply (Clipper CR). But I'm sure that's just my own taste.
Also, were you using 64/H3 on your FH or BH? Thank you |
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palu83xoo
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sorry i made a bit of a typo in the flipping section. the h3 doesnt have a low throw. it is fairly high but i was actually comparing the h3 to the t64 which in my oppinion is higher... sorry!
i am playing with h3 neo black 39 harness on the forehand side. i think my persson power play is a good match for this rubber. its not too soft and it has great feeling for allaround offenseive play, not just looping.
and sorry but i wint be reviewing the other neo rubbers.. im stickin with the h3 for a while
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Totoro
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It's getting more and more tempting to get this rubber...
What is and where do you get ' paraffin oil '? Sorry I've never tuned/boosted/speed glued anything ever before! |
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sadius
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Paraffin oil = Lamp oil and you could find in any department store at camping section
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palu83xoo
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lol i dont really use any kind of oil. its ittf illegal, just a small joke x]
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icontek
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lamp oil is kerosene, no?
if so, that's *loaded* with VOCs... not that people who are tuning care. |
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Imago
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Baby oil is also parafin based oil. If it was for ITTF, they would surely prohibit its use on the baby soft backs.
H3 is not at all tacky. BW2 is tacky - it holds the ball for 16 seconds, H3 for less than 1/10 of the second.
I am now 20 days trying to find out any substantial difference between h3 old and H3 Neo P, and the only difference I see is the powder-like layer on the topsheet, the pre-glued sponge, and the absolute wrist smashing power on the BH. It's like Heckler & Koch. :)
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729 FX
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Nice review there on H3, palu.
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radu
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what degree its the h3 neo r using?
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wizz
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Totoro - both affordablett and butterfly australia still sell booster / tuners - since they are banned they are mega cheap these days too.
Seriously though - 39 deg H3 sounds friggin sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!! |
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palu83xoo
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im using 39 but i think it goes to 40, which is also a different thickness i believe. check the store though i might be crazy xp
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persson power play
h3 neo 2.2 t64 2.1 |
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Rich215
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Does anyone have any weights of uncut sheets of the various Neo H3 rubbers?
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nicefrog
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No but it should be about the same or slightly lighter than the H2 which is 62 grams
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Totoro
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I wanted to ask about the throw of the H3 Neo. I'm starting to really hate the throw on my T05. All my spinney loops starting from below the table with my bat open always go off the table.
Which of the two rubbers, T05/H3Neo has the higher throw? *hopes H3 has a lower throw* |
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I'm 15
Clipper Wood FH: DHS Hurricane 3 PROVINCIAL 2.15mm 38 degrees BH: Palio CK531A OX CPen Looper with LP twiddling, blocking hitting and LP RPB |
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Jonan
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Mine was way lower...depends on the stroke, but mine were grazing the net. |
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Totoro
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YES!
My Tenergy is freying on the edges... Not bad seeing as it has served me for about a year. Next rubber after it truly starts to die, H3Neo! 39 sponge. =D |
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I'm 15
Clipper Wood FH: DHS Hurricane 3 PROVINCIAL 2.15mm 38 degrees BH: Palio CK531A OX CPen Looper with LP twiddling, blocking hitting and LP RPB |
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cntcasey
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Does the H3Neo have a hard sponge like the hurricane 2 rubber from DHS?
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Imago
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Probably I am contriving things, but the old com 39 deg is much softer that the Neo 38 deg Pro.
I must have artificially softened the sponge after tuning it four times in the last six months...
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Totoro
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I've been using my H3Neo 39 for about 3 weeks now. GREAAT RUBBER. It's less bouncy compared to my T05 which is good.
Off topic question: How does TG3 compare against H3? (neos) In terms of throw and speed? Thanks |
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I'm 15
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ejmaster
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H3 Neo (orange) is a good chinese rubber, but like a little boosted h3. It is quite slow compared to Tenergy. It is not a live rubber like tenergy. It keeps on having that dead feeling. It has good control and it is more linear than BWII which is more powerful and less linear rubber than H3 Neo. H3 users can go to H3 Neo, without any problem.
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Is the H3Neo better for Bh or for Fh?
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