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I've been using TG3 neo (red, 2.15mm, on Zetro Quad) on my forehand for a few days now. It seems hard as a brick after coming from Vega Pro. It's barely tacky and not very grippy at all. Yet, it does everything I ask of it. To my surprise it grips the ball extremely well. It really feels like a mystery.
 
My high toss serves are landing exactly how I want them to (real shallow just beyond the net). My smashes are blistering (for this level of play anyway).
 
... and for $17?!.... Sorry Vega Pro. I guess this is goodbye.... eh, it's early still... who knows
 
I'm curious how it will play on the more flexible Xiom V1 and BBC All Around
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itreresting because i tried the skyline not neo and it was more like a defensive rubber or in other words a big funny joke i cant belive that the differens is so big!


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After a recent doubles match cost me my last H3NP38, I decided to do some ttnp EJing before the next tournament...

Tin Arc 37 2.1
TG2 Neo 39 2.2
TG3 Neo 39 2.2
H3 BS 2.1


Because no one talks about TG2 neo, I ordered one. I'll add little bits of information to this thread over the next month as I get some days in with these rubbers.

I've been reasonably happy with the H3 BS 2.1 after 2 sessions (super-primed before use to speed up break in) and if none of the TG/TA rubbers wind up as a permanent H3NP38 solution, this will do, with a similar long throw, slightly faster top end, and a little bit worse short/pushing game.

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Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

After a recent doubles match cost me my last H3NP38, I decided to do some ttnp EJing before the next tournament...

Tin Arc 37 2.1
TG2 Neo 39 2.2
TG3 Neo 39 2.2
H3 BS 2.1


Because no one talks about TG2 neo, I ordered one. I'll add little bits of information to this thread over the next month as I get some days in with these rubbers.

I've been reasonably happy with the H3 BS 2.1 after 2 sessions (super-primed before use to speed up break in) and if none of the TG/TA rubbers wind up as a permanent H3NP38 solution, this will do, with a similar long throw, slightly faster top end, and a little bit worse short/pushing game.


what did you use for priming?
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I switched to TG3N from T25 a couple of months ago and have no regrets. I recently converted a clubmate from T05 to TG3N and he's also loving it. Review on OOAK site.
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Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

After a recent doubles match cost me my last H3NP38, I decided to do some ttnp EJing before the next tournament...Tin Arc 37 2.1TG2 Neo 39 2.2.


It will be fab to have someone compare all of those directly. Too many reviews just comparing individual rubbers to tenergy and nothing else.
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I used haifu speed glue to soften and stretch the blue sponge with the super priming glass method. got a few cm of stretch.

AS far as all rubbers listed, I may not get through all of them... But I will update thread as it goes.

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Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

I used haifu speed glue to soften and stretch the blue sponge with the super priming glass method. got a few cm of stretch.

AS far as all rubbers listed, I may not get through all of them... But I will update thread as it goes.

 
don't forget to come back here icontek! Smile
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Thanks for the reminder!

I actually have a super-primed TG3Neo on my blade right now, ready to go for tomorrow night's club play.

I will need to "break it in", so the first night may not be representative of actual playing characteristics.

I have a replacement TinArc on order; just in case TG3Neo requires too much work.
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Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

After a recent doubles match cost me my last H3NP38, I decided to do some ttnp EJing before the next tournament...

Tin Arc 37 2.1
TG2 Neo 39 2.2
TG3 Neo 39 2.2
H3 BS 2.1


Because no one talks about TG2 neo, I ordered one. I'll add little bits of information to this thread over the next month as I get some days in with these rubbers.

I've been reasonably happy with the H3 BS 2.1 after 2 sessions (super-primed before use to speed up break in) and if none of the TG/TA rubbers wind up as a permanent H3NP38 solution, this will do, with a similar long throw, slightly faster top end, and a little bit worse short/pushing game.


I wanted to comment on the TG2- I am also left wondering why it is so unpopular. 

out of the package, it is easily my favorite of the NEO's by a fair amount, and don't see why no one else tries it out. Hopefully you like it as well. 
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Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

After a recent doubles match cost me my last H3NP38, I decided to do some ttnp EJing before the next tournament...

Tin Arc 37 2.1
TG2 Neo 39 2.2
TG3 Neo 39 2.2
H3 BS 2.1


Because no one talks about TG2 neo, I ordered one. I'll add little bits of information to this thread over the next month as I get some days in with these rubbers.

I've been reasonably happy with the H3 BS 2.1 after 2 sessions (super-primed before use to speed up break in) and if none of the TG/TA rubbers wind up as a permanent H3NP38 solution, this will do, with a similar long throw, slightly faster top end, and a little bit worse short/pushing game.


I wanted to comment on the TG2- I am also left wondering why it is so unpopular. 

out of the package, it is easily my favorite of the NEO's by a fair amount, and don't see why no one else tries it out. Hopefully you like it as well. 


it's more sticky than h3 so acts more like a chinese rubber.
speed wise probably a little slower than h3.
if you like the neo series you might as well just try them all since they are similar.


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TG3 Neo is faster.
But H3 Neo is spinnier. That's why people prefers H3 Neo.
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Originally posted by HowToPlayChineseLoop HowToPlayChineseLoop wrote:

TG3 Neo is faster.
But H3 Neo is spinnier. That's why people prefers H3 Neo.

H3 Neo is faster and less spinnier.
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To me the H3 is more spinny than the TG3 and H3 has noticeably more dwell time.
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Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Originally posted by HowToPlayChineseLoop HowToPlayChineseLoop wrote:

TG3 Neo is faster.
But H3 Neo is spinnier. That's why people prefers H3 Neo.

H3 Neo is faster and less spinnier.

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Originally posted by Sofaires Sofaires wrote:

Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Originally posted by HowToPlayChineseLoop HowToPlayChineseLoop wrote:

TG3 Neo is faster.
But H3 Neo is spinnier. That's why people prefers H3 Neo.

H3 Neo is faster and less spinnier.

agree with smackDAT

i guess we all have our own personal preference, for me h3 neo is slower, and spinnier 
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Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

After a recent doubles match cost me my last H3NP38, I decided to do some ttnp EJing before the next tournament...

Tin Arc 37 2.1
TG2 Neo 39 2.2
TG3 Neo 39 2.2
H3 BS 2.1


Because no one talks about TG2 neo, I ordered one. I'll add little bits of information to this thread over the next month as I get some days in with these rubbers.

...

Few words i have to say about TG2 Neo, skip and go for 2008XP. Its 1/3 price and has many similarities in behaviour. Only con i remember is the extra weight, otherwise i would prefer it over the TG2 Neo. Among the -few- chinese rubbers i've tried, i liked that most along with 729-5. I will probably be able to get back to training soon so i could write some kind of review though it is late for you, it might help others.

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Originally posted by Stoi Stoi wrote:

Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

After a recent doubles match cost me my last H3NP38, I decided to do some ttnp EJing before the next tournament...

Tin Arc 37 2.1
TG2 Neo 39 2.2
TG3 Neo 39 2.2
H3 BS 2.1


Because no one talks about TG2 neo, I ordered one. I'll add little bits of information to this thread over the next month as I get some days in with these rubbers.

...

Few words i have to say about TG2 Neo, skip and go for 2008XP. Its 1/3 price and has many similarities in behaviour. Only con i remember is the extra weight, otherwise i would prefer it over the TG2 Neo. Among the -few- chinese rubbers i've tried, i liked that most along with 729-5. I will probably be able to get back to training soon so i could write some kind of review though it is late for you, it might help others.



How is TG2 neo compared to H3 neo?
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I haven't tried H3 Neo extensively, i can do it in a couple weeks but i don't expect any miracles to happen. As i remember it, it was another dead sponge tacky rubber, not for me. I would prefer something between Blitz and TG2 sacrificing some speed and spin.

I don't like the idea of tuning so they don't fit my game. 2008XP (not thicker than 2mm)  or 729-5, they are quite faster and about same spin, you will spent around 20$ for both.

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TG2 Neo is ultra-tacky and is the spinniest of the H2/H3/TG2/TG3 clan. It also has the densest sponge. However, TG2 Neo's tackiness makes it feel slower than the other three.
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Though i find that it is a bit faster and less tacky than the H3 Neo, which i played for a little bit, it IS slower than it is rated, 8.9 at tabletennisdb.com in terms of speed, Blitz has 9.1. Thats a joke, they have more like 20% (7.1) than 2% (8.9) difference. I can't understand the way people rate such rubbers. The main reason i bought that rubber was the speed/spin ratio and i was very disappointed.

Will try to write a review when i have the chance.

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I've been playing with TG2 Neo 39 degree hardness for a few weeks now.  I find it to be a good looping rubber.  It's weakness is smashing, there is no feed back when you go for a no spin hit at high speed.  But high speed looping there is plenty of feed back when the ball bites into the rubber.  You can feel the restistance increase as the ball's topsin is being reversed off the paddle.
 
Even though I got the factory softest sponge, it is still pretty hard compared to the t05.  Compared to TG3 and H3, this rubber feels like having the most control when you spin.  In comparison to the t05 the biggest difference is the smaller bounce in the rubber.  So the ball is slower during serves and hitting when using the same stroke. 
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TG2neo an dTG3neo are very similar imo.. only when you move to mid/far table we sees the big different.
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Originally posted by zheyi zheyi wrote:

TG2neo an dTG3neo are very similar imo.. only when you move to mid/far table we sees the big different.

what are these differences mid/far the table?
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IMO TG2neo seems to dwell longer especially mid/long table game.. while TG3neo feels more direct.
perhaps when i hit it really hard.. if not not much diff imo. I havent prime my piece of TG3neo yet after 3 weeks of play, as it becomes bit slower, but still ok.. how to do it anyone?
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TG2neo compared to TG3neo has a noticeably lower throw and less spin for drive. Otherwise they are very similar. 
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wow my post above just made me realize that I've stuck with TG3neo in red on my forehand for nearly five months now.... that's not very EJ-litically Correct of me

I do have one rubber waiting on me for forehand testing though: TG3 neo in black Smile
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Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

wow my post above just made me realize that I've stuck with TG3neo in red on my forehand for nearly five months now.... that's not very EJ-litically Correct of me

I do have one rubber waiting on me for forehand testing though: TG3 neo in black Smile
Your 2.15 has any hardness? If not U think around what range?
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Originally posted by zheyi zheyi wrote:

Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

wow my post above just made me realize that I've stuck with TG3neo in red on my forehand for nearly five months now.... that's not very EJ-litically Correct of me

I do have one rubber waiting on me for forehand testing though: TG3 neo in black Smile
Your 2.15 has any hardness? If not U think around what range?
 
well, my 2.15 is the unmarked commercial one sold by ttnpp. i also tried a 2.2 marked hardness one which said 39 degrees. the 2.15 unmarked feels a little bit harder to me; maybe 41, hard to say
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i have the 2.15 and its hard
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