Review: Palio Dragon Rubbers

has anyone tried Palio Hidden Dragon GL Sponge 40+.. recently i got 2 sheets of hidden dragon biotech..aaand i think it is very good rubber for advanced amateurs. i'm curious what is the difference between biotech and GL sponge, which one is heavier, which one is faster and spinier. can any one compare these rubbers

FiskenDK wrote: Can any of the mentioned palio rubbers compare to spinart, looking for replacement due to bty pricing.

Try Palio Thors - however, you will need some time for it to break in.

I'm using Hadou Whirlwind (Hurricane?), HK1997 Biotech, and CJ8000-Speed. I can give my quick impressions after 4-5 months of use:

Hadou Whirlwind: It was a decent rubber, ultra tacky at first. Then my co-worker speed-glued it maybe a month ago and it became an entirely different beast. Really good speed and control. The tack has worn off to a really great level.

HK1997 Biotech: I thought the softer sponge would make this more control and less attack, I was wrong. The sponge deal with hard punches and I still maintain a lot of control on the ball. Even though it is a biotech sponge, it also behaves very well after speed gluing.

CJ8000-Speed: Wow... tacky! Good feeling rubber but not all that exciting. The ultra-tackiness took away from speed. I feel like this rubber still needs to be broken in. I found it better for looping than speed. I haven't tried speed gluing but I can already tell that this rubber will respond well to it.

Overall: Hadou > HK1997 > CJ8000

After a few months of use and playing with some other rubbers I'm really starting to like the Hadou. Definitely better than my Focus II's. I'm interested in the tensioned 2046/2049 versions and was also interested in the Dragon series. But, I'm very concerned that the sponge will give and cause uncontrollable throws on hard attacks.

which one of those is the spinniest of all those rubbers?

pongcrazy wrote: I used the Macro Era 42.5 on BH and it is more like a solid 40 out of the box and ends up about 38 by the time it needs replaced. It actually feels a touch harder than Narucross EX Hard (which is really not hard).  If you want something a little softer yet get the regular Palio Macro (not Era) which is pretty soft and around 36 degrees.

Palio Macro Tensor (not Era) is a great BH rubber indeed...

JT,

I will soon try Wildish Dragon that I got from jt99sf - feels very nice to the touch.

jt99sf wrote: pongcrazy wrote: dual700 wrote: Thanks JT!! Hunting for Macro Era 36-38.. Have you used it? Where can you buy Macro Era in 36-38 degree sponge?   Is this it?   http://fastpaddle.com/tt/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_1_5&products_id=12

dual700 wrote: Thanks JT!! Hunting for Macro Era 36-38.. Have you used it?

Where can you buy Macro Era in 36-38 degree sponge?

I'll try the CJ8000, JT. Maybe with harder sponge.

Which Palio that resemble closely to Sriver and Mark V?

chu_bun wrote: jt99sf wrote: I don't have a scale to weight them , but I can say they are definitely lighter than the H3 rubbers... I assume you talked about regular H3.  My Hadou and CJ8000 biotech 2.2mm 40-42 rubbers are much heavier than my (fake) Neo H3's.  IIRC my TBS with 2 x Hadou weighted 200g !, with 2 x CJ8000 weighted 194g.  With 2 x Neo H3, my racket weights 187g (my current settings). If you don't mind the weight, these are very playable rubbers and last for a long time.

Thank you!

dual700 wrote: Thanks JT!! Hunting for Macro Era 36-38.. Have you used it?

The LKT's top sheets are not as nice as the Palio's, I also think the Palio rubbers last longer.