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Doesn't Zhang Jike use Bryce speed in his backhand? I've always known it but can't confirm the source now.
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Looks like the most popular BH rubber is: "unknown"

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Originally posted by TTdreamer1982 TTdreamer1982 wrote:

Originally posted by TBS9x TBS9x wrote:

Are you sure that Timo is using all wood with ALC handle ??? I dont know about the others but Schlager's stuff looks damn fast...


Give them a blade bought from stationary, glued with Tenergy.
Believe me, when they do a drive, u still touch nothing.


Speed is not everything. Suppose all the pros are able to hit so powerful drives but then the they still can use carbon or ALC blades because if its already fast then they have to show that they are able to handle the speed in slow shot or they will be just like us, power but no control is nothing. Besides, Ma Long if he uses ALC, its possibly for the dead feeling ( little vibration ) that he wants.
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Here's Ma Long's TBS: http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/20097161571118688_G

And here's Boll's ALC: http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/20091915302077018_G

Both have layers of Arylate/Carbon.
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Originally posted by TTdreamer1982 TTdreamer1982 wrote:

Originally posted by TBS9x TBS9x wrote:

Are you sure that Timo is using all wood with ALC handle ??? I dont know about the others but Schlager's stuff looks damn fast...


Give them a blade bought from stationary, glued with Tenergy.
Believe me, when they do a drive, u still touch nothing.
 
I am sure that i have seen the blue colored ALC layers on Timo Boll's blade in one of the videos. Though i am very sure that you are correct about what you have said above, i just don't believe that they are using an all wood blade.
You should substantiate your verdict with pics to make all of us believe.
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Originally posted by TBS9x TBS9x wrote:

Are you sure that Timo is using all wood with ALC handle ??? I dont know about the others but Schlager's stuff looks damn fast...


Give them a blade bought from stationary, glued with Tenergy.
Believe me, when they do a drive, u still touch nothing.
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What does Joo use for blade? I've heard rumours that he use Matsush*ta pro alpha or matsush*ta pro with the JSH's handle. Before he used the special made diode...However, it's certain that he uses T64 and Tibhar Grass Dtecs
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Are you sure that Timo is using all wood with ALC handle ??? I dont know about the others but Schlager's stuff looks damn fast...
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most of the top 20 player are using pure wood blade.
Including Ma long and Timo.
You would say "hey, but I see Ma's handle is Timo Boll Spirit!!"

Well....Like u just said....u saw the handle........

Same with Jun Mitzutani.

I played the blade which is made for him. Got the same handle as u see
that sells in TT store. But it is pure wood, light.... extremely controllable...

All pros' blade are not bouncy at all. Because for attack, U will need to learn
to put in strength on your own, not relying on blade. And All pros already
knew how to do that. But on defense and counter attacking shots, they
will have to have a extremely stable blade.

During intense and powerful rallies, it is impossible to count on bouncy
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For me looks like a custom made that they put TB Spark handle without any lens..

TB Spark is only Arylate and this one looks like A/C.
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timo boll spark then? Ermm
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Also the one he is using has a metal badge, does not have the blue lines across the handle and also has carbon layers of some kind.
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Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Doesn't look like the same blade to me..


Yeah I don't think so either. The top image has a line on the bottom of the handle where the butterfly logo is but the bottom image doesn't
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Doesn't look like the same blade to me..

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Originally posted by Sallom89 Sallom89 wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

The picture with the white sponge was uploaded 4 days ago.. So I changed Xu Xin's backhand rubber to simply "Unknown"


"uploaded"?, but when was it captured? mine was captured during Kuwait open.


It was uploaded to http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/ 4, now 5, days ago.

The Kuwait open was over 2 months ago, so it's not unlikely that he has changed his bh since then..
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samsonov is not using grip s anymore? i doubt he changed it to genius...
also chuang has his own blade not a custom one: http://www.butterflyonline.com/images/catalog/zoom/7090AN.jpg
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Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

The picture with the white sponge was uploaded 4 days ago.. So I changed Xu Xin's backhand rubber to simply "Unknown"


"uploaded"?, but when was it captured? mine was captured during Kuwait open.
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The picture with the white sponge was uploaded 4 days ago..

So I changed Xu Xin's backhand rubber to simply "Unknown"
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Who knows what Wang Jian Jun equipment is at the moment? Still Stiga OC?
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Originally posted by SLee SLee wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:


Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.


Looks to me like Xu Xin's picture is an old one. I know that he uses the Stiga Offensive NCT now not the YEO(which is in the picture)


maybe only handle is new?
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:))) maybe only handle is new?
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Wang Hao's BH?
I've read from somewhere that it is a thicker version of Sriver EL.
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Originally posted by SLee SLee wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:


Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.


Looks to me like Xu Xin's picture is an old one. I know that he uses the Stiga Offensive NCT now not the YEO(which is in the picture)


The picture that I captured during Kuwait open shows that he is using an orange sponge.
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Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:


Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.


Looks to me like Xu Xin's picture is an old one. I know that he uses the Stiga Offensive NCT now not the YEO(which is in the picture)
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Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:


Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.




looks orange to me man.. :/
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Updated the first post with some posts that I must have missed..

IceObsession: Thanks for listing it up like that! So much faster to just copy them straight in!
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 Hugo Hoyama uses one rubber only. Same as  Cazuo Matsumoto who was using some chinese rubber a few months ago.
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Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..

It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?





Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.

Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.
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Wang Liqin has carbon blade?
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