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Restoring your topsheet with oil (video) |
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Thaidog
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Has anybody tried this? If so how did it go?
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Timo ALC FL
Tibhar Grip S MAx Tenergy 64 FX National 2.1mm He never boosts... of course he never had to... |
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peter79
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Hmmm, never tried sunflower oil. But I've tried using parafin oil with liquid soap. Not more than 5 minutes time, become grippy again.
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Heimdallalso
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I've had some good results w/ olive oil.
I would say, try in the last month, or so, of your rubbers life. Let us know if you get a good result. |
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NEXY Lissom st 85g
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Thaidog
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Cool! I look forward to trying all types!
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Timo ALC FL
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Heimdallalso
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I should add; I simply used a clean finger to apply spreading the excess
evenly.
I ~do~ like his brush application but would think two, maybe three coats max should do it... maybe just two good coats. I think the results are going to vary a good deal depending on the rubbers being treated. again Good Luck & Good Hitting! I'd love to know The Architect's findings! |
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NEXY Lissom st 85g
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Thaidog
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In concordance |
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Timo ALC FL
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Speedplay
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I've done it a couple of times to force out the last life of the rubber =)
Works pretty good, but I've only applied one layer, applied it with a cloth and left it to soak for ~30 minutes. Removed the excess oil and the bat was ready to play. Gives more grip to grippy rubbers and restores the tackiness to tacky rubbers. Makes it able to squeeze out an extra month of usage for the rubber. |
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Heimdallalso
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Such an application will subsequently only garner a systemic performance enhancement for a set period of time... ergo, the suggestion to "squeeze out an extra month of usage for the rubber" is concrdantly a "correct" one. In this time line & any time line!
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smackman
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Would adding 5 coats of oil, change the weight up?. Has anyone weighed thier bats before and after?
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Hookshot
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I can tell you it will make the bat heavier over time. My dad used to wipe his with corn oil all the time. When he died I got his bat. It weighed a ton! The sponge was soaked with oil. It does not evaporate like water does. It builds up.When I took the rubbers off, the wood even had oil soaked into it.
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stiltt
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Only water should be used on newer sheets and lamp oil should be used lightly when the sheet is getting older...and more and more lamp oil. it will really take dust off and give a lot of spin for a couple hours or so.
The advantage of lamp oil is that it evaporate really quickly and does not get detected by enez. For the lovers of broken in Chinese tacky rubbers this is the way to go. It's funny I won't do that with Tenergy rubbers....It seems like the lamp oil helps only rubbers that are already cheap in the first place. Sounds logical to me . |
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Thaidog
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Vis-à-vis more spin and cash flow... while this answer functions it is obviously fundamentally flawed thus creating the otherwise buzzing sound on the enez machine at tournaments. |
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Timo ALC FL
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Imago
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Recently, I have found that buying a hew rubber is the best topsheet restoration.
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stiltt
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at last somebody makes sense here
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Heimdallalso
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Spoken like a man who's never tried what has been tried & is under consideration. |
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NEXY Lissom st 85g
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SuperFX
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did this with my neo prov. worked like a charm....gave me two more months before switching to blue sponge g999 national..
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Thaidog
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Interesting... I've got an old Spin Art topsheet... care to help me restore it? |
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Timo ALC FL
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I usually wet sanded old dead topsheets with 1000 then 2000 grit wet and dry sandpaper if I wasdesperate to get some more life from them before I could get new ones. Well these days I just buy new ones, but for many years I did this, I was able to get 3 years from a Chinese rubber no problem if I sanded the dead outer layer off it once each 12 months.
But today for an experiment I took a 20 year old Double fish 815 that hasn't been used in more than 15 years. This rubber was probably the most tacky tacky rubber ever by the way :), anyway I sanded the oxide off it, bit of oil, bit of soap, bit more sanding. Bit of glue to re-awaken the sponge, Now it's gone from a dead mirror to holding a ball for more than 5 seconds, which isn't much different to the last time it was used. I'm so impressed I'm going to use it and see how a old time classic Chinese rubber compares to a modern rubber
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minicd
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why do you try the rubber revitalizer Kenetix, it works really well for restoring and maintaining the topsheet, what i know is the compound is made from the same compaund they use to preserved the rubber before packaging, cant beat that
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Imago
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Unfortunately, my Spin Arts are sold. If you can wait more than a month I can assist you in getting a new one @ $48 + shipping.
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Thaidog
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Well thanks that's very generous of you! Seeming that Spin Art is $65 I can use any break to get a lower price!
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Timo ALC FL
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Imago
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The new price of Spin Art at Megaspin will be $78, I suppose.
Anyway, from time to time, I revitalize some rubbers with ordinary baby oil from our local producer. This seems to be a viable practice considering the new soaring height of BTY prices. TB ALC with Memo 3 on BH is also a good revenge. Edited by Imago - 08/01/2010 at 2:29am |
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yassermuslim
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To achieve the best results you better do this exercise while the rubber is off the blade
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glanden.zheng
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Does some people also apply the oil to the sponge itself? I would like to know the effects of paraffin oil on rubbers like Hurricane...
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pdotec
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Anyone add oil to tenergy 64? My sheet is pretty dead now and I'm tempted to try it.
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Thaidog
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I might try it when it gets older... If I don't sell it to a friend first (still not completely sold on T64 but I am warming up to it) @glanden.zheng - I think peter79 has tuned some sheets with it before... Edited by Thaidog - 08/03/2010 at 2:44am |
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Timo ALC FL
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peter79
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Tuning H3 neo provincial or national is a must. My H3 national neo blue sponge loose it's factory tune in 2 weeks. It become slow and I got frustrated. I tune it with baby oil at first, but the result isn't that great.
Later I tune it with Parafin oil, it has been more than 2 weeks now, still plays very well and hasn't slow down from the first time tuning. |
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zheyi
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mine h3 prov tuned once 2 months ago and still playing well. but has been bored so
switching to a blue sponge now.. yet to test in details. but from the way i can feel,
orange sponge is more bouncy.. should suit me more then the blue sponge. --- shall see...
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sugengz
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I put parafin oil on topsheet of my Neo H3C 40degree, just like the video on the first post....
After one time application, and let it dry (more precisely soaked), and the topsheet become softer and more elastic... Become a little bit tacky, but not as tacky as it was when I open it for the first time from the plastic pack. It play much better than the brand new. When I remove it from the blade, the rubber is dome a lot, it seems like the topsheet expand... Pretty tough to reglue it with that condition. FYI: I use Haifu WBG. After reglue, it still plays very good. Over all, after the tuning on topsheet using Parafin oil, my Neo H3C, softer more elastic, no significant change on speed, but spin much better.... Worth to try (of course at your own risk... :D ) |
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