High throw Chinese rubber?

Great article.

Edited by 4ugustu - 08/17/2017 at 11:56am

gambler outlaw classic is what your looking for!

Imago wrote: And what is the correlation between High throw and Long trajectory?

yogi_bear wrote: palio thor's?

palio thor's?

seguso wrote: Here is what happens at my club: I was playing with Galaxy Moon on Stiga Offensive Wood NCT. All other players told me "it sucks, it has no arc and no spin, the trajectory is flat, the ball goes down". Here are the setups of these players: Stiga Rosewood + Donic Acuda S1: much higher throw than my setup. Stiga Ebenholz VII + Vega Pro: much higher throw than mine. Tibhar IV-T + Donic Acuda S2: much higher throw than mine. I tried their blades, and there is no doubt that my setup has much lower throw and much less arc than theirs. I am looking for something with more arc. --- Previously I was using MercuryII on forehand, which works very well for me; then I decided to try Moon and 729 higher on forehand. The result was: I had trouble lifting low passive blocks which fell just past the table. My loops against block went to net, unless I decided (A) to drive instead of looping, or (B) to open the blade face and move the arm more upwards than foreword, similar to how you lift backspin. But (B) is slower and less comfortable.

hmm....what you're asking for is pretty much a european rubber...i mean look at what everyone else in your club is playing with...so of course the playing characteristics are not going to be the same. now about what your club mates said, it could be that your swing/technique just isn't suited for chinese rubbers. i don't know your playing level (you very well could be much better than me), but i'm thinking that you're just not spinning the ball enough regardless.

i can't tell without a video to look at and analyze. the rubbers you are using are different than mine (H3) so i can't tell you much about the one's your currently use. if you are having trouble spinning and making your shots with H3, then i could help you out a bit more. i know for sure that H3 has plenty of speed and spin (low trajectory) as long as you know how to use it. you can also arc the ball pretty well too....just look at some of my old vids and you'll see.

good luck with your search though!

seguso wrote: JKC wrote: Do you understand what a High Throw rubber is Seguso? I think so... What did I say that makes you think I don't?

The reason I ask is that I have used many chinese rubbers and think I know what I am talking about, but you are taking rubbers suggested by me and others (who know what they are talking about) and dismissing them as low or medium throw as though you know more than them. You also said that the throw on the Hurricanes and even G666 was the same and this just isn't true.

Peter C wrote: The Galaxy W-6 is like the Yasaka Extra; which means it's a slower, more flexible blade, than the Clipper Wood. My one weighs 89 grams and it works well with Chinese rubbers and tensors too. As you find the Offensive Classic too slow for you, you'll probably find the W-6 isn't fast enough for you either. Don't get me wrong; it is a very good blade, for those who have the technique to generate their own power; however, it's not a blade I would consider recommending to someone like you.

Now you make me think of it, Offensive Classic was only slow for me because I was using untuned Globe 999, one of the slowest rubbers out there. So I had trouble finishing the point, even with a big swing. But with faster rubbers I could use it. The main problems would be that I am less precise with flexible blades (due to the variable throw), and that it's heavier than I like. But I like the high throw, so I could give it another try.

sweetstrike wrote: I have mercury 2 37 degree. The throw on CJ8000 42-44 degree biotech is just a little less than mercury. The 36-38 and 39-41 variants should throw more. Someone on the other forum claims 36-38 throws more than T05 but I havent confirmed it. ...

and it is only 8.50$ at ttnpp. I will try the 36-38 deg version. Thanks

seguso wrote: sweetstrike wrote: Have you tried CJ8000 on 36-38 or 39-41 biotech sponge? Throw is pretty high for being not that tacky. Not as high as T05 but it's pretty close. Interesting. Have you tried any of the following rubbers? Galaxy Moon, Galaxy Sun, Galaxy MercuryII. Can you compare CJ8000 with either of them? Thank

I have mercury 2 37 degree. The throw on CJ8000 42-44 degree biotech is just a little less than mercury. The 36-38 and 39-41 variants should throw more. Someone on the other forum claims 36-38 throws more than T05 but I havent confirmed it.

What I like about cj8000 is that it is a mechanical spin rubber and doesnt rely on its tackiness. The sponge does not catapult like a tensor so its more predictable for me. For the same reason it is a slower rubber. I have speed glued it though and it turns into a high throw monster (more than T05).

Of course, Moon cannot compare to Acuda S1q but if you attach Moon 40 to a good composite blade, e.g., Shark 686, you will get enough high throw. Probably more than enough.

tpgh2k wrote: when you're talking about low balls. low and short (still inside the table) or low and long (past the table)? because even with a low ball that's 4 inches inside the table, you can still swing hard and loop pretty well. it's just a matter of trusting your swing. are you having trouble making it over the net when this happens?

Here is what happens at my club: I was playing with Galaxy Moon on Stiga Offensive Wood NCT. All other players told me "it sucks, it has no arc and no spin, the trajectory is flat, the ball goes down". Here are the setups of these players:

• Stiga Rosewood + Donic Acuda S1: much higher throw than my setup.
  
  
• Stiga Ebenholz VII + Vega Pro: much higher throw than mine.
  
  
• Tibhar IV-T + Donic Acuda S2: much higher throw than mine.

I tried their blades, and there is no doubt that my setup has much lower throw and much less arc than theirs. I am looking for something with more arc.

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Previously I was using MercuryII on forehand, which works very well for me; then I decided to try Moon and 729 higher on forehand. The result was: I had trouble lifting low passive blocks which fell just past the table. My loops against block went to net, unless I decided (A) to drive instead of looping, or (B) to open the blade face and move the arm more upwards than foreword, similar to how you lift backspin. But (B) is slower and less comfortable.

assiduous wrote: ... What blade do you use them on? I think you have a stiff blade that punches the ball out before the rubber can bite it.

Yes, my blade (Stiga Offensive Wood NCT) is all wood but it is fairly low throw. Much lower than Stiga Offensive Classic, Stiga Allround Classic, Stiga Allround Wood NCT. However, the above ones are too slow for me.

I also have Clipper wood and the throw is the same as Stiga Offensive Wood NCT. Is Galaxy W6 supposed to be a clipper clone? Given that, you say with Galaxy W6 the throw will be higher? THanks

JKC wrote: Do you understand what a High Throw rubber is Seguso?

I think so... What did I say that makes you think I don't?

seguso wrote: I don't see how this is possible. H3 forces you to open the blade more, and move the arm more upwards, so you have to decrease the arm speed compared to T05, i.e. be less aggressive in some situations.

when you're talking about low balls. low and short (still inside the table) or low and long (past the table)?

because even with a low ball that's 4 inches inside the table, you can still swing hard and loop pretty well. it's just a matter of trusting your swing.

are you having trouble making it over the net when this happens?