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Originally posted by ttEDGE - William ttEDGE - William wrote:

I'm asking for some help from the MyTT community for a project I'm doing:
  1. Where do you feel your footwork is letting you down? (ie specific movements).
  2. Is it because you don't know what the correct footwork is or just can't do it for physical reasons?
  3. Would you be willing to pay for a DVD / download if it explained every question you had about the correct footwork for every movement in table tennis?

I would really appreciate any feedback you could give.


1. Moving to the left from far FH side lol...I'm right handed


2. Weight transfer, this is the most bothering me. I have been try a few methods in order to mimic xu xin movement or the one should in basic footwork video, but unable to.

3. hm... I don't know right now, since I had to focus on my job career instead of TT at these 3-6 months If I got a job and there is a good TT club over there, then mostly....

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Yes, I would be willing to pay for a video that covers proper footwork.
 
1.  Proper weight transfer and recovery position - balanced position for FH and BH
- I open my right side for looping, but get caught in a bad position if the return is fast to my BH - I am a righty
2.  movement to wide FH and wide BH, do you use shuffle side to side, cross over etc
3.  In and out movement
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Great! We did a long filming session yesterday on this. I've just got a few more bits and pieces to film today before I leave to go back to Australia tonight.

Last question - what would be your preferred method of delivery in general?

- DVD?
- Web streaming?
- Video download?
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one question in case you make videos, I'm registered on ttedge site from long time ago, but never was able to look at any video there, i've tried with several players, but it cant play with any. Anybody else has same problem? 
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Hi garwor. You would have had a free silver membership. The website has only been available to Windows computers but this will soon change. We've got a whole new structure coming and the videos will be playable on macs, ipads, tablets, etc.

The first lot of DVD's/videos in longer format will be coming out around the same time as the new structure is released. If you require any assistance or are having problems playing any videos just contact [email protected] and we'll sort this out for you.
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Originally posted by ttEDGE - William ttEDGE - William wrote:


Last question - what would be your preferred method of delivery in general?

- DVD?
- Web streaming?
- Video download?


web stream/download. I prefer these both together, as there were too many DVDs sitting in my house

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BUMP!

   Just wanted to reiterate interest on this project, and also throw out a few specific questions.

   My friend made an interesting observation this week - when I'm moving, my left foot (I'm lefty) tends to point outwards, parallel to the edge of the table almost.

   I think this is a big problem - it makes it much harder to move, compared to when my foot is pointed forward.  I'm so glad he pointed this out.  So I've been trying to develop footwork where, when hitting a forehand, as I turn I also turn my foot out (parallel to edge), but when I finish my forehand shot, the foot points forward.  I've seen this in videos but wanted to know if I'm on track here, does this make sense?

   Another specific footwork pattern that I'm having problems with, and also a lot of opponents of mine struggle with: I'm a lefty, and I can place a serve wide, wide out into the forehand side of a righty, short, just 4 inches behind the net on the line with underspin - its not over the table, but needs to be taken early out on the side of the table.  Whats the footwork for this?  More generally, what footwork should I use to get in position to play a forehand receive on the line short on the forehand side?  I've been working to take a big step, almost crossing over, which seems to work but curious about this particular pattern.

   Finally, I'm curious about the footwork transitioning from forehand to playing a backhand, and vice versa.  This ties into the question above - a lot of players seem to square off more for the backhand, then open up for the forehand with their feet, turning the right foot (for righties) out when playing the forehand, but curious about more details.

   My footwork really needs a lot of work.  Especially wide balls give me problems - I make a strong return, but I'm too unstable to play a quality shot after that if the opponent gets it back.  I really look forward to these videos / DVDs.

  


Edited by chronos - 05/28/2012 at 1:15pm
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1.  Pivot points -  at the corners of the table you step around the table with the foot near that edge.  So if you're going around the left fh side to return a short ball going off the side of the table, you step around with you left.

2. corner to corner -  most players will take 1 step going from corner to corner.  if the game is really fast pace they just hop from corner to corner.

3.  FH foot position - start with your left foot slightly behind you right.  When you hit hop so that you feet are now parallel.  The next hop you're going to position yourself for the next ball.  You're going to have to decide if it is FH or BH.  Then hop up with your hit.  Then hop to the next position...

you can practice footwork without actually hitting.  just shadow hit while concentrating on keeping the timing of your hops rhythmic.




Edited by power7 - 05/30/2012 at 1:16am
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Wow power7, gold!!!!

Pivot points: makes perfect sense.

When I'm hopping to play a forehand, I turn my foot outwards (parallel to the edge of the table) while turning my body?  I think this is what you mean in 3)

Can you describe the footwork when stepping around to play a forehand in the backhand corner?

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The feet turn outward because 1) hard to keep a low stance with feet point forward (only traditional martial arts have a stance like that)  2) you don't know if you are going left or right when playing next ball.

Once you are in position feet pointing is not that critical, since on your next hop when you hit the ball, your feet will land with toe pointed forward.

Most attackers play shakehand like penholders and cover the whole table with FH.  These players just slide off the BH side of the table in 1 step and attack with FH drive or loop.  To drill this just stand in the BH corner, step diagonally out and back with your right foot, then left foot follows.  Then attack the ball with your lefthanded FH.  You step back a bit to give yourself room to attack, as ball goes off the table.
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Here is an example of siding off the BH side to attack with FH.  He's a righty and considered so-so in Table Tennis.  Just copy him (or mirror him since you're a lefty) for now till you get better.



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Originally posted by power7 power7 wrote:

1.  Pivot points -  at the corners of the table you step around the table with the foot near that edge.  So if you're going around the left fh side to return a short ball going off the side of the table, you step around with you left.

2. corner to corner -  most players will take 1 step going from corner to corner.  if the game is really fast pace they just hop from corner to corner.

3.  FH foot position - start with your left foot slightly behind you right.  When you hit hop so that you feet are now parallel.  The next hop you're going to position yourself for the next ball.  You're going to have to decide if it is FH or BH.  Then hop up with your hit.  Then hop to the next position...

you can practice footwork without actually hitting.  just shadow hit while concentrating on keeping the timing of your hops rhythmic.



Very right!  Shadow training can be very helpful!

Footwork really doesn't need to be taught, just try to move from point A to point B as quickly as possible while maintaining your balance enough for a powerful shot, you'll naturally discover the correct footwork.  For example, when you launch a powerful loop drive, you put so much momentum forward that you'll lose your footing if your right foot doesn't move forward to be parallel with your left foot and return to ready position.  Similarly, if you don't cross your left foot over your right to reach a shot wide to your FH, you simply won't be able to launch a powerful shot.  The problem most players face is actually that they just don't have the habit of moving, so when the game starts, they forget to move, and they end up with their feet glued to the ground.

The best way to develop good footwork isn't to focus on which foot should step where when, it's to start moving before every shot during training, try to hit every ball with your FH no matter where you are.  Once you can do it in practice, start doing it during games.  You'll lose a lot in the beginning because your mind will be focused on moving your feet rather than executing the correct stroke, but it'll eventually become a habit and you can just focus on the shot.
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Originally posted by power7 power7 wrote:

He's a righty and considered so-so in Table Tennis. 

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Originally posted by swampthing swampthing wrote:

Originally posted by power7 power7 wrote:

He's a righty and considered so-so in Table Tennis. 

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Plus he is an old man now.
He used to be faster when he was younger
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