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cmetsbeltran15
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^^^^^^^
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lol, overhyped
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Both Xu Xin and Zhou Yu signed the scorecard with their right hands. I'm pretty sure I saw Hao Shuai do the same thing a couple weeks ago. I know Jun Mizutani is really right-handed too. What's with making everyone learn table tennis with their off hands? Does coming in from the left side really gain you that much advantage? I just read that no left-handed Chinese player has won the olympics or a world championship. What about from other countries? Does anyone know?
I suppose they could all be ambidextrous....right?
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In writing Chinese, it is easier to write with the right hand.
It is common that left handers learn to write with the right. But other than that - Chop sticks, table tennis racket etc is all with the left. Same with Wang Nan too. And she won the olympics/world champs |
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snerdly
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Stellan Bengsston is the only lefty to win the world's I am aware of.
Lefties play right handers all the time, generally, while righties seldom play lefties. So lefties are more accustomed to playing righties, giving lefties some advantage. The could be ambi, or they might lefties forced to learn to write with their right hand.
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skip3119
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Both Xu Xin and Zhou Yu signed the scorecard with their right hands. I'm pretty sure I saw Hao Shuai do the same thing a couple weeks ago. I know Jun Mizutani is really right-handed too.
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I think in China & Japan, when a left-handed child learns how to write, the parents force the child to use the right hand. That was the situation back then.
In the western countries, parents just let the child use whichever hand the child prefers to use to write. Parents in the western countries just don't force the left-handed child to use right hand to write.
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I don't think those guys were right-handed but trained to use left hand to play TT - they were left-handed to begin with. Edited by skip3119 - 09/17/2012 at 8:16pm |
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Correct, and also as I said above, it is easier to write with the right hand - base on how the characters are formed. A lefty that can write with a right is actually very cool. Left hand holds an eraser, the right hand a pencil. I thought that was quite cool lol I also know one person that can use chopsticks with both hands |
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Backhand Short
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Interesting, thanks for the cultural enlightenment on right hand writing and the info on champion lefties.
I heard an announcer once say Jun Mizutani was really right handed and forced to play table tennis with his left. The Olympics page corroborates that story. I wonder if he's unique in that regard. |
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skip3119
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Is there a youtube version of Zhou Yu vs Muramatsu Yuto?
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I don't know much about Jun Mizutani - sorry. However I feel for racket sport - forcing may be indeed more difficlut than oppose to a sport that uses both hands - ie Baseball, basketball, Cricket etc |
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cmetsbeltran15
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pretty short video, lolol |
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Anderni
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^ Not bad for a 15/16 year old. (Muramatsu.)
Edited by Anderni - 09/18/2012 at 12:14pm |
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skip3119
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Thanks a lot.
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cmetsbeltran15
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I'll show you not bad for a 16 year old |
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Anderni
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There are many good Chinese teenagers like Lin, Song Hongyuan and others. ;) But I can still be impressed by a 16 year old defender. Edited by Anderni - 09/18/2012 at 2:28pm |
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skip3119
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I'll show you not bad for a 16 year old. ============================
A direct link of those two videos will be great.
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Hey skip, here they are: 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsh9--VNK0E [Lin Gaoyuan-Oh Sang Eun, Korea Open 2011] 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlNlRIB-RSU [Patrick Baum vs Lin Gaoyuan, Korea Open 2011] ##################### Anyone could find the direct links, its easy: When you "Quote" the post with the embedded videos you could see the "Youtube video identities" of all the embedded videos, so when I quoted that post I found: vsh9--VNK0E (for the 1st video) and UlNlRIB-RSU (for the 2nd video) Now, the general form of a youtube video address is like this: [A] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v="Video identity" So, the youtube video addresses of the concrete videos (by replacing Video IDs to [A]) are: Edited by janus700 - 09/18/2012 at 1:48pm |
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my former coach told me that lefties are taken seriuosly in china, in mid 90's there was a chinese lefty player that use to beat 60% of the matches to kong and liu and was 96 national champion but never was in the 1st team
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janus700:
Thank you very much.
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(md-f) XU Xin / FANG Bo - YAN An / ZHOU Yu [Full Match|Short Form]
Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlwqxQOMpQ
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Anderni
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Yes, it's strange to think about how there have been many high quality players we never heard about, since they were just training partners. These days we have CCTV online streams, so I think we can see all of the top quality Chinese players now in the CTTSL and national championships. Edited by Anderni - 09/19/2012 at 6:06am |
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I looked it up, the 1996 national champion is lefty, named Zhang Yong, don't know if that is the same person who coached Singapore women's team with Liu Guodong. |
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http://www.ittf.com/1997/RESULTS/Man/VIEWS/27.html By Sportswriter Cao Jianjie MANCHESTER England, (April 25) XINHUA - Chinese table tennis player Zhang Yong is the man behind Liu Guoliang's Olympic victories. The 22-year-old Zhang has been a sparring partner for Chinese star players Liu Guoliang and Kong Linghui since joining the national team in 1993. Playing an aggressive game in handshake grip, the left-handed Zhang is the Chinese "Rosskopf" or "Gatien". "I have to owe to Zhang my victory over German Jorg Rosskopf in the Olympic Games," said the 20-year-old Liu, who had been held in awe by Rosskopf before Zhang rebuilt his confidence. Liu had taken sweet revenge over Rossokopf with a 3-1 victory before he beat teammate Wang Tao to win China's first Olympic men's singles title in Atlanta last summer. In the British Open early last year, Liu was so nervous in the deciding fifth set against Rosskopf that he dropped his bat twice to the ground and only got five points. "Six months of playing against Zhang made a difference," Liu said. During China's run-up for the Olympic Games and world championships, the versatile Zhang imitates the ways that top Europeans play. Playing like Rosskopf and France's 1993 world champion Jean-Philippe Gatien, both left-handers, has become his specialty. "When Chinese players are expected to face Rosskopf or Gatien in a competition, they play against me first," Zhang said. Zhang said Liu's Olympic victory over Rosskopf was the biggest-ever reward for him. "I have fulfilled my mission and proved my value in Liu's Olympic victory," Zhang said. Unlike most of the training partners in the Chinese team, imitating western playing styles is a part-time job for Zhang. Zhang, who got a doubles silver medal in the 1993 national championships, won the singles championship in the 1996 nationals where Liu Guoliang and world No. 1 Kong Linghui also competed. In the CCTV tennis tournament late last year, Zhang outlasted world champion Kong 3-2. "I have a poor record against Kong, but I have won half of the matches against Liu in the training," Zhang said. Zhang holds a bigger ambition than beating Liu and Kong. "I am young and I have confidence to be world champion by myself," he said. For Liu Wenhua, a training partner for the women's world No. 1 Deng Yaping, to be world champion is a goal beyond his reach. The 28-year-old Liu, called into the national team after placing fifth in a national competition in 1989, helped Deng regain the singles and doubles titles in the Atlanta Olympics. "Liu is an unknown hero for the Chinese women's dominance in the world," said Chinese coach Lu Yuansheng. Liu, who plays topspin game in handshake style, said his skill had been on a downtrend because his rivals lacked men's speed and firepower. "I always held an advantage when I played against Deng for the first several years, but now I don't," Liu said. "Deng has bettered her skills while I am on the decline. I has never reached the last eight in national competition since 1989." Liu holds no grudges as a stepping-stone for Chinese women's players and he has recently refused a coaching offer from a European club. "I am proud of what I am doing," Liu said. "When Deng and her teammates beat their rivals, I am much happier than them." Enditem 25/04/97 12:54 GMT Copyright 1997 |
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Anyone knows which blade and rubbers the young chinese guys (Fang Bo, Zhou Yu and Yan An) are playing?
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http://ligno.de.tt
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Stellan Bengtsson of Sweden, Seiji Ono of Japan and J-P Gatien of France were World men's champions in 1971, 1979 and 1993 respectively, with the late Anton Stipancic of Yugoslavia the runner-up in 1975. Europe has been dominated recently by Germany's Timo Boll, who has five European titles, and in the past Mikael Appelgren of Sweden won three Euro titles in 1982, 1988 and 1990. Michael Maze was 2009 European Champion as well.
Ding Ning, the current world women's champion, is a leftie, as is the 2007 winner Guo Yue. Of course the great Wang Nan, a Chinese like Ding and Guo, dominated world table tennis with back to back world titles in 1999, 2001 and 2003 and was 2000 Olympic champion as well. I'm not sure if this is an all inclusive list but it should help.
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no chinese male has been able to win,my former coach said lefty are not good for team a1, i think xu xin will retire and never will be able to win
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Chen Jing, a leftie, won the gold medal in the 1988 Olympics for China, preceding Wang Nan's period of dominance which included an Olympic gold medal and three World singles titles.
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