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rocketman222
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Think about it, these are professional players, they can play with anything, as long as butterfly doesn't mind giving them free stuff, they are more than happy to take it.
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sunny
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Has anyone compared ZJK Super ZLC and JM Super ZLC?
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CraneStyle
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Edited by CraneStyle - 01/13/2017 at 1:34pm |
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1. Mizutani Jun ZLC, FH T80, BH T05
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Mickael
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What are The rubbers that suits best zjk szlc?
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Butterfly Fransizka ZLC FL
Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 BH |
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jfolsen
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I prefer the #35. And isn't your post a couple of days late? jfolsen |
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t64t64t64
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Also very good rubber is T05 ali express edition :D |
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http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709
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Mickael
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You go play PS4 silly kids. And don't forget your milk and sleep at 7 after your mom take your shower.
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Butterfly Fransizka ZLC FL
Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 BH |
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m123456
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can any tell me the difference in specs and detail of performances btwn the jun mizutani superzlc and the jang jike superzlc. I heard they have same speed and play same overall. if that's so, then how come one costs 30 dollars more than the other? kinda need this because we're talking abt a lot money in here
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TurboZ
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It is limba top ply for MJ which is softer and koto for ZJK which is harder. But I would say the price difference is because one is a Grand Slam Champion and the other is not.
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m123456
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so basically jun mizutani super zlc is slower than the zjk szlc?
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slevin
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Just watching the 2018 Youth Olympic Game quarterfinals. So far, I've seen 4 players (playing non-tacky rubbers) in this round use these ZLC fibers:
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Tt Gold
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What are the characteristics of zlc? I personally played with zlf for some time and the arc was way too high. Also played with the apolonia for a day and didn't like the trajectory at all. It wasn't very direct. So what are the upsides to zlc compared to alc
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slevin
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Don't get too carried away - almost all of the older generation (playing before ZLC came out) play ALC. Also, all most chinese players play with ALC (variants of Viscaria or W968). Benefits of ZLC over ALC (YMMV):
Benefits of SZLC over ALC (YMMV):
Benefits of ALC:
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Tt Gold
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What does YMMV mean?
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slevin
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tom
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"Benefits of ALC: IMHO, better with chinese rubbers"
Interesting, anybody else have an opinion on this?
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Tt Gold
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GSOM_GSOM11
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IMHO, Viscaria and TBALC are significantly different blades, and really, TBALC is no good with H3NProv, while Vis shines with it. Viscaria Light was even better for me - its fast opening loop is incredible, but it lacks arc and power in mid-distance loop-loop exchange. ZJALC (blue dragon) was also good with blue-sponged H3NProv.
So, there are SOME alc models which match H3 well, but not ANY alc matches it. Concerning zlf and zlc - I've tried some zylon blades with H3, and disliked all of them much. It looks like zylon is too springy for those dead Chinese sponges, and it catapults the ball away from the blade before you compress the sponge to execute a "cracking" loop-kill. Arc is there, you can land medium power loops all day, but at full power and more forward motion it becomes inconsistent. So, you don't have that crushing power you want to get from a Chinese rubber. One who knows how to perform a Chinese forward-motion loop-hit not "around" the ball, but "through" the ball, will get this point. Zylon is really less Chinese-rubber-friendly than ALC or flexy all-wood. |
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I also found zlf blades to be offputting with chinese rubbers.
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Tt Gold
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Timo boll spirit, viscaria, Timo boll alc, zjk blue dragon and Zhang jike alc all have the exact same composition. The slight differences are only due to the different handles and their impact on the weight distribution. Timo boll alc is a little more head heavy than viscaria, but that surely won't make it worse with h3. A lot of Chinese are using Timo boll alc. Ma long for example used tb alc and before that spirit I believe. The thing is that most people outside China don't even know the proper technique with a Chinese rubber. People always say that there is not one perfect technique, but that isn't correct for Chinese rubbers. Chinese rubbers require a certain technique to work. Of course there are some variation, but not a lot. So when people say h3 works on this but not on that, then I'd like to see their stroke first.
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