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dabookerman
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I believe that it was Ma Long.
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:D Some are, some aren't. For instance, Hao Shuai's loss to Michael Maze in the 2005 worlds could perhaps be described as a choke. On the other hand, Samsonov's comeback in the 5th game of the 2009 world cup was mentioned as an amazing comeback, and I think it fits that description. If you watch that game, you will see that Samsonov had to play many very good points successively, including two or three absolutely incredible ones, to win that game. Wang Jianjun's loss to Ma Lin involved a lot of choking, but also a huge stroke of luck for ML, as one of his balls hit the edge of the table while he was LOBBING. So, even with all of WJJ's choking, he still would have won the match if it weren't for Ma Lin's crazy luck. Maybe that's why comebacks from 7 or 8 match points down are so rare - even if you are choking like crazy, you can usually squeeze out at least one point in that stretch. |
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Are amazing comebacks the same as biggest "chokes"?
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Does anyone recall a video with a defender I believe, maybe Joo, around 2007 or so... Where the score was perhaps 10-4 or somewhere thereabouts and the guy ended up losing? I can't remember any of the players! I'm thinking it was chinese vs korean though... Wang Liqin?
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'facing death' situation.....
liu guozheng faced 7 match points against him vs kim taek soo in the 2001 teams :)
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Psychology is very important there. I have a clubmate who plays with vicious LPs on his BH (he plays Japanese penhold... no kidding!) but he is not using them often. However, when he falls far behind... like 1-5 or 3-8 etc, he will start use them more and more, sometimes all the time, twiddling the racket etc. Noticing that, I started doing the following - when I lead him 2-3 points I start playing a bit less carefully, going for crazy shots etc, allowing him to always be within 1-2 points from me. This way he plays with inverted practically all the time which makes it much easier for me to pull out a win. I wonder if he ever realized that... |
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A guy who won against me regularly told me that he worried most when I was behind nearing the end of a game. If I was leading at the end of a game he felt comfortable.
His point was that I would fight hard when behind and relax when ahead. Learn your own psychology.
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I notice Schlager in the match above celebrates big time when he cancels the 4th match point out to level at 10-10; I think it is a mistake to do so at my level; obviously not at his. |
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This is my all-time favorite for all the reasons fatt mentions. WLQ was at that time or less unbeatable, and Werner Schlager at that time just another guy (with a really good serve). But its a great collection. I wish I could do it. My habit is to catch people from far behind and then still manage to lose the deuce game. |
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I AM SO DUMB; it's referenced in the OP... (that I watched a long time ago). sorry.
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that was fun to watch. In that video comments, there is a reference to a magnificent comeback from Ma Lin:
the comment might be wrong in score and date but I was happy that it leaded me to watch this. Per the video title it happens in 2006 and it's the China National Table Tennis Championship Men's Single Final. Ma Lin is down 3-10 and 1-3 in games; he's got to save 7 match points in the 5th game to stay alive in the match; in stepheN's words, may the party begin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=k6PIWq_ZG4E&t=1028 |
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Oh yes, I forgot that one... Thanks! |
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Wang Xi vs. Shibaev, Champions League 2010, Fulda vs. Ekaterinburg
Shibaev led 2:0 in sets (best of 5 sets, teammatch), 10:3. Then the party started: |
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This does not satisfy the conditions but I find it the most memorable comeback given the importance of the competition:
Schlager-Wang Liqin Paris 2003 WTTC The indisputable #1 in the world, reigning World Champion at peak of his form (after the 2001 edition he would win 2005 and 2007 wttc) is leading 3-2 in games and has 4 match points in this wttc 1/4 finals; he let the game slip between his fingers and fell apart in the deciding game. The Austrian man's achievement is even more incredible when confirmed by another win in the 1/2 v. the grand slam winner KLH and the final win v. JSH. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GX_k7f3xGkU&t=434 All those hundred hours of serve practice paid off that day; and the guts under pressure; and that forearm snap at 7-10 answering wlq's fast fh along the line returning a fast serve from his bh corner...it was all magical. |
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Any more "amazing comebacks", guys? Still cannot find that Slovakia - Czech Rep. women's match... perhaps one of our forummers from those countries knows what I am talking about and could find it for us...? TiBiKe? anyone?
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Watch at 5:20 and enjoy!!!
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The best one is Gatien or Legout ( I don't remember exactly) against Adrian Crisan many years ago. 20:4 for Crisan...20:15 ....(Adrian's coach laughing in front of the cameras)....20:22 .....
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I think the Korean open. There was no ITTF camera on that table. Edited by NextLevel - 05/24/2013 at 10:58am |
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Where/when was this one played? |
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On another slant, have you guys ever been totally out of a game and given up say at 2:8 down?
You then relax and start hitting the ball to get it over and done with. But the shots keep on landing and suddenly you find yourself at 6-8 or 7-9 and back in the game. |
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ma lin korbel is worthy because of the circumstance. sure only 3-7, but LGL gets ejected and tournaments were more intense back then. The energy was a lot higher. And it's the 7th game. I think any 7th game comeback is worthy because you really have to dig.
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Samsonov - Ma Long in semifinal of World Cup 2009 ( comeback from 5-10 to 14-12 in 5th set)
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Does anyone have this video?
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Kasumi in the 2011 WTTC is probably one of the best comebacks i've ever seen.
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I know that some turnarounds/comebacks are great, but those that involve the pressure of saving multiple matchpoints in a row are just a different animal altogether and that is where I think Jim T was going. To have all these one-set comebacks posted was getting a bit sad - I am not saying my rules have to be followed, but I just wanted to stop that trend.
Now, back to the topic - doesn anyone have the match that we are all dying to see - Yan An - Zhang Jike where Zhang Jike was 10-4 in the seventh and proceeded to lose?
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I think you can call those turnarounds instead, or less amazing comebacks. I think there was Guo Yue who beat Li Xiaoxia, in 2007? Don't remember how much Guo Yue was down. |
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I'd say that to qualify for "amazing" the match should satisfy the following two conditions: 1) high pressure/major competition 2) at least five (5) match points are converted to win the match OR at least eight (8) match points are converted and set won (but match is later lost nevertheless) OR at least eight points difference in score (8-0, 9-1) is eliminated and the set and match are won By these rules WLQ's comeback vs Ma Lin in 2007 WTTC MS final (from being down 1-3 in sets and 1-7 down in the fifth) is, alas, not "amazing" - although it is awesome. |
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Not sure if there's really a need to make specific rules, but I'd agree that a comeback from 7-3 shouldn't have been listed here I'm with you on the not so amazing part.
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I think we should make the following rules for the comebacks as people are citing too many OK comebacks which are not really "amazing":
1) The loser must have had at least three match points, likely more, and the winner must have been down at least 1 game at that point if it wasn't the deciding set. 2) If it was the deciding set, the winner must have been down at least 6 match points. 3) If the comeback was from 10-0, it doesn't matter what the score was at that point or who won the whole match if the person down 0-10 came back to win that set. I know there was a doubles match where a team came down from 0-10 to win a game during the WTTC 2013.
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