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    Posted: 09/30/2014 at 9:46am
I put my comments on T-80 FX in another thread (about comparison with T-05 FX).

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66908&PID=829822&#829822

Basically I think it is a worthy rubber but should not be used on soft blades (I would advise against thick hinoki blades for this one). A little bit too much of a catapult, imho - but for some people that could be a plus.
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I've only had my 80-fx for a week, but I really like it on my BH.

I used 05-fx for a season, and liked it apart from the elastic behaviour. From distance, it was a dream. I found it slingy on faster stokes. I found it difficult to judge in some situations - generally when coming back into the table from distance for a kill.

I then moved to 64-fx. Overall, I preferred it to 05-fx. It was rock solid, dependable, linear, lower throw. It didn't do anything special (and so seems expensive for what it is), and it wasn't as effortless as 05-fx when lifting backspin or looping.

80-fx seems close to 05-fx for me in many respects. It still slings the ball out and high on hard stokes, just not so high. It does feel much more reserved over the table than 05-fx though, and this was my main quibble. And it feels quite insensitive to spin on thin contacts, so lifting backspin is easy once more. I immediately felt comfortable with it. Blocking very, very hard incoming loops (loop drives, really) was a bit tricky, but it's a fresh sheet and feels a bit lively at the top end.

Good rubber, a nice balance of stuff for my BH.
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I have 80-FX and agree that it feels as if it has the best control of the Tenergy range (well that is from the rubbers that I've tried).


Edited by ChrisUK - 06/13/2014 at 7:03am
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Originally posted by Johnny Erasure Johnny Erasure wrote:

How sensitive is T80FX from the spin that comes from the opponent, as it involves the receipt of services?

It seems the least sensitive of the Tenergy series so far.
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How sensitive is T80FX from the spin that comes from the opponent, as it involves the receipt of services?
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Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

Originally posted by right2niru right2niru wrote:

Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

Got my T80FX sheets today. It's like Xmas in April  Tongue

Hopefully I can try it out this weekend. Just trying to figure out which blade to glue 1 sheet for BH use

How do you compare it against your existing BH rubbers ? How Does T 80 FX play ? 


I changed my mind, didn't use it as BH.
Instead, I used it as FH on Donic Walder Legend Carbon blade. Man, this is a treat to play. I know this blade is fast, but the match allowed me effortless FH loops & loop drives. Push shots were normal, nothing to write home about. Blocking control was above average. I managed to get a lot of feel from this blade. FH counter-hitting, ball just zings off the rubber. I like T80FX over T80 because of more feedback.

I did put it on my BH of my Backup paddle and did group training tonight and T 80 FX is an interesting rubber , it doesn't really excels in one particular aspect but it's control to speed ratio is amazing with spin producing capabilities. It is really effortless to produce a loop on BH over push and punches also felt great to execute however the height of the ball is the key for punches and it doesn't forgive mistiming on punches . Blocks felt great and very controlled and i could do everything from sidespin block to chop block effortlessly , possibly due to its top sheet , drop shots and open flicks also felt great. 

For now it will remain in my Backup paddle on BH instead of T64 till i explore it completely but initial impressions are great. 




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Originally posted by right2niru right2niru wrote:

Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

Got my T80FX sheets today. It's like Xmas in April  Tongue

Hopefully I can try it out this weekend. Just trying to figure out which blade to glue 1 sheet for BH use

How do you compare it against your existing BH rubbers ? How Does T 80 FX play ? 


I changed my mind, didn't use it as BH.
Instead, I used it as FH on Donic Walder Legend Carbon blade. Man, this is a treat to play. I know this blade is fast, but the match allowed me effortless FH loops & loop drives. Push shots were normal, nothing to write home about. Blocking control was above average. I managed to get a lot of feel from this blade. FH counter-hitting, ball just zings off the rubber. I like T80FX over T80 because of more feedback.
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Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Originally posted by proSpin proSpin wrote:

Bought a tenergy 80 fx red 2.1mm to try last week Big smile
Weighs 43g cut to Jun mizutani size. 

After a few hits with t80 fx on the bh of my Jun Mizutani, i find the feeling to be the closest to tenergy 05, probably a lighter version. Lifting backspin isn't much of a problem, however it is still quite sensitive to spin compared to tenergy 05fx. Rubber gives a nice clicking sound when blocking topspin shots, also relatively lower throw when looping compared to t05 and t05fx.
I have tried T80 before, not really to my liking in terms of hardness, speed and spin and weight. But for t80fx, it is pretty impressive. May need more time to utilise the rubber fully. 

Comparing T80fx to T05fx & T05
Spin :
(T05 > T80fx > T05fx)

Speed :
(T80fx > T05 > T05fx)

Control:
(T05fx > T05 > T80fx)

Note that this is based on what i feel. May not be the same for the rest of us. 
Hope this helps a little.

Well, for me it is much slower than the 05 one but the control is better :))) It's really a unique sport...so many different ways of playing with the same material !!!!

Maybe my backhand stroke gives a different feel of ball 
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Originally posted by proSpin proSpin wrote:

Bought a tenergy 80 fx red 2.1mm to try last week Big smile
Weighs 43g cut to Jun mizutani size. 

After a few hits with t80 fx on the bh of my Jun Mizutani, i find the feeling to be the closest to tenergy 05, probably a lighter version. Lifting backspin isn't much of a problem, however it is still quite sensitive to spin compared to tenergy 05fx. Rubber gives a nice clicking sound when blocking topspin shots, also relatively lower throw when looping compared to t05 and t05fx.
I have tried T80 before, not really to my liking in terms of hardness, speed and spin and weight. But for t80fx, it is pretty impressive. May need more time to utilise the rubber fully. 

Comparing T80fx to T05fx & T05
Spin :
(T05 > T80fx > T05fx)

Speed :
(T80fx > T05 > T05fx)

Control:
(T05fx > T05 > T80fx)

Note that this is based on what i feel. May not be the same for the rest of us. 
Hope this helps a little.

Well, for me it is much slower than the 05 one but the control is better :))) It's really a unique sport...so many different ways of playing with the same material !!!!
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My T80FX feels like a strange bird compared to T05FX and T64FX. I will need to give it more playing time to decide to keep it or not.
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Bought a tenergy 80 fx red 2.1mm to try last week Big smile
Weighs 43g cut to Jun mizutani size. 

After a few hits with t80 fx on the bh of my Jun Mizutani, i find the feeling to be the closest to tenergy 05, probably a lighter version. Lifting backspin isn't much of a problem, however it is still quite sensitive to spin compared to tenergy 05fx. Rubber gives a nice clicking sound when blocking topspin shots, also relatively lower throw when looping compared to t05 and t05fx.
I have tried T80 before, not really to my liking in terms of hardness, speed and spin and weight. But for t80fx, it is pretty impressive. May need more time to utilise the rubber fully. 

Comparing T80fx to T05fx & T05
Spin :
(T05 > T80fx > T05fx)

Speed :
(T80fx > T05 > T05fx)

Control:
(T05fx > T05 > T80fx)

Note that this is based on what i feel. May not be the same for the rest of us. 
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Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

Got my T80FX sheets today. It's like Xmas in April  Tongue

Hopefully I can try it out this weekend. Just trying to figure out which blade to glue 1 sheet for BH use

How do you compare it against your existing BH rubbers ? How Does T 80 FX play ? 
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Got my T80FX sheets today. It's like Xmas in April  Tongue

Hopefully I can try it out this weekend. Just trying to figure out which blade to glue 1 sheet for BH use
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T80FX now available at www.butterflyonline.com

Edited by frogger - 04/19/2014 at 10:50am
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Originally posted by Pondus Pondus wrote:


Nice find, Pondus, thanks. I looked at their site a short time ago, specifically hoping to find this review and did not see it yet. Must be quite fresh. Thanks again.
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Originally posted by Ray Ray wrote:

Originally posted by CraneStyle CraneStyle wrote:

I think the whole rubber market has been inflated due to the price of Tenergy.


True. And if you look at the new Stiga and Tibhar rubbers, their MSRP/RRP are almost as high as Tenergy. However, the most expensive rubber I ever bought was less than 29eur incl. shipping.


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Originally posted by CraneStyle CraneStyle wrote:

I think the whole rubber market has been inflated due to the price of Tenergy.


True. And if you look at the new Stiga and Tibhar rubbers, their MSRP/RRP are almost as high as Tenergy. However, the most expensive rubber I ever bought was less than 29eur incl. shipping.
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Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:

sales would be off the charts thus increasing profit margins
That's incorrect! Profit margins are higher with a higher sales price but the sales volume might be higher with a lower price. Wink 
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@frogger - That's not going to happen...

Just look at the number of blades people have and display (I'm also guilty), when we can only play with one...?

We are openly displaying our disposable income.

I think the whole rubber market has been inflated due to the price of Tenergy.

Butterfly just got in first...

Edited by CraneStyle - 04/17/2014 at 6:39pm
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Here was my review, done a few weeks ago:
http://tabletennis-reviews.com/tenergy-80-fx-review

In a nutshel, it's quite similar to T05FX, which only a few minor differences. It's a good rubber though.
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If BTY were smart they would lower the price to $40USD then sales would be off the charts thus increasing profit margins and more players would try a Tenergy rubber.

Present Tenergy prices are cost prohibitive.

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T25 has a major counterintuitive throw from distance in all versions.
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Originally posted by CraneStyle CraneStyle wrote:

Tenergy 80 FX review...

Another great review by the TableTennisDaily.UK Guys...

http://youtu.be/v6ZhiE_mMYY

Maybe someone can embed the video in their post.

I'm new to this...

can't embed.. the uploader sets embedding off.
 


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Tenergy 80 FX review...

Another great review by the TableTennisDaily.UK Guys...

http://youtu.be/v6ZhiE_mMYY

Maybe someone can embed the video in their post.

I'm new to this...

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I have tried T-25 FX and liked it a lot. I think you might find it better suited to your style than both T-05 FX and T-64 FX... I think it is somewhere in the middle. I only played with a slower version of it - 1.7 mm - but I intend to try out 1.9-2.1 mm... not sure which one to spend my money on.

Andy, if you decide to buy one and test it, let me know - perhaps we could split it... say, you buy 1.9 and I buy 2.1 and then we swap them to test one after another and decide which one is better for each of us.
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Originally posted by CraneStyle CraneStyle wrote:

@ AndySmith - I've tried T64-FX and it does work at lifting backspin and balls off the table from serves.

I couldn't exactly bond with it though and found I netted more shots than usual during rallies.

Don't know if you've tried T25-FX..? It might be what you're looking for in terms of spin, arc and more power...


25-fx is the only tenergy I've never owned. I've always been curious, but it's not as popular as the others so I haven't had much chance to even have a knock with it.
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@ AndySmith - I've tried T64-FX and it does work at lifting backspin and balls off the table from serves.

I couldn't exactly bond with it though and found I netted more shots than usual during rallies.

Don't know if you've tried T25-FX..? It might be what you're looking for in terms of spin, arc and more power...
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I actually liked Aurus Soft on FH more than BH. It's ok on BH too but I am more in need of a grippier topsheet on my BH than on FH... go figure.


As a wise JimT once said - to each his own.   

My BH is quite sensitive to rubber changes, and since I've been using hinoki outers it has been tricky for me to find something with a good balance. I just find that 64-FX gives me the best balance on my BH side of all the sheets I've tried. Ideally, I'd like slightly more spin/arc/throw, but not as much as 05-FX, so...
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