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    Posted: 05/09/2014 at 9:28am
With TT Japan gone and LoveTT missing, where are you ordering your Butterfly blades and rubbers from?
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I'm not. And even if I was, I would think that it would be a bad idea to publically broadcast the names of any webshops who were prepared to break through the Butterfly blockade.

So, if anyone has a nice source, perhaps send via PM to the OP.
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When I do I order it from the Paddle Palace.  I have tried to cut back but T05 really isn't such a bad deal if you consider that T05 lasts a long time.


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I use Megaspin because of great customer service and very fast delivery.  When I specify a weight, they generally find me one in the range and if it doesn't exist they tell me.  They mail the same day they get the order.  Once when a blade arrived badly damaged, they sent me another one, no questions asked.  Their prices are the same as everyone else in US but I am quite loyal to them now.    Like everyone else these days, some popular blades will be back ordered. 
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If you know... hush up.

It was in no part thanks to posts here and else where and the US butterfly crying a river that they put those rules in effect.
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The problem is still that many butterfly blades are out of stock in all US sites. 
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I do not understand what this means.  Can somebody please explain?  Thanks,  Is there a plot against Butterfly??
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Originally posted by bschap bschap wrote:

I do not understand what this means.  Can somebody please explain?  Thanks,  Is there a plot against Butterfly??


Against?

No.

Bty made it known that they were not happy with the globalization and how people in Country X where buying the same item from Country ZZ for less. This was no thanks in part to BTY of country X complaining about people going else where... fast forward to today and there you have it.

no plot except the one created by BTY themselves.

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Butterfly is promoting local stores to sell low quality and fake butterfly , they did not take the burden of finding why people are buying from tt-japan , instead of working hard and finding the reasons and try to solve it, instead they shut it down. What a shame .
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sorry guys, I guess I am being dense but I still don't understand.
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Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

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Does it ship outside the US ?
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Originally posted by bschap bschap wrote:

I do not understand what this means.  Can somebody please explain?  Thanks,  Is there a plot against Butterfly??
Butterfly dealers presumably have a sales territory that they can only sell to but it was not strictly enforced.  Apparently, enough Butterfly dealers have complained to Butterfly corporate about TT-Japan poaching their customers that Butterfly corporate has decided to enforce the territory restrictions.  It's still unclear as to why other Butterfly dealers can't compete price-wise with TT-Japan.  Maybe they can but are unwilling due to greed?
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That is interesting.  Usually "authorized dealers" have specific prices they must sell the goods at.  So TTJapan either was not an authorized dealer or Butterfly was letting them sell at a lower price.   Does anyone know which?
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Butterfly enforces a Minimum Recommended Selling Price for their equipment in each country. In India, this is INR 4400 ($72) for T05.
In Japan this is much lower. No dealer is allowed to sell below this price.
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For me it´s very simple: if I want to buy the manufacturer MUST sell. If the manufacturer does not want to sell or creates any barrier, I simply go for a product of another manufacturer. It´s valid for clothes, cars, food, anything.
I gave up Butterfly products long ago, not because of this restriction, but because of their prices. For me some of their absurd prices was clearly a barrier.
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Originally posted by TT newbie TT newbie wrote:

For me it´s very simple: if I want to buy the manufacturer MUST sell. If the manufacturer does not want to sell or creates any barrier, I simply go for a product of another manufacturer. It´s valid for clothes, cars, food, anything.
I gave up Butterfly products long ago, not because of this restriction, but because of their prices. For me some of their absurd prices was clearly a barrier.



EXACTLY!   Mind you my first custom rubber was BTY and i was in love with it. I still kept my first 729 wood from 11-12 years ago Just to have.  I said screw them once Tenergy got raised to an absurd price.<.length;r++var>


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Anyone know where lovett2011 is and if hell be back? 

Ive heard that hes meant to be setting up a club in his local area and that hes busy with that but surely that cant have taken this long? Also could be health related as im sure he was gone for a week due to health problems a few years ago?

Going to miss him as a great seller and hope this is only temporary
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TTNPP.com has Viscaria and OO rubbers in stock if anyone is interested.
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Originally posted by GMan4911 GMan4911 wrote:

Originally posted by bschap bschap wrote:

I do not understand what this means.  Can somebody please explain?  Thanks,  Is there a plot against Butterfly??
Butterfly dealers presumably have a sales territory that they can only sell to but it was not strictly enforced.  Apparently, enough Butterfly dealers have complained to Butterfly corporate about TT-Japan poaching their customers that Butterfly corporate has decided to enforce the territory restrictions.  It's still unclear as to why other Butterfly dealers can't compete price-wise with TT-Japan.  Maybe they can but are unwilling due to greed?
they buy the tenrgy for $42 and the price is set by butterfly at $64 thats how it is in the us
now some dealer give you a 10 to 15 % break if you negotiate
i cant reveal my source but i pay for my tenergy $ 55  
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And in Japan Tenergy is around 50usd in retail. Too expensive nevertheless.
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Does anywhere in Japan ship to UK though? 
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Originally posted by Purett Purett wrote:

Originally posted by GMan4911 GMan4911 wrote:

Originally posted by bschap bschap wrote:

I do not understand what this means.  Can somebody please explain?  Thanks,  Is there a plot against Butterfly??
Butterfly dealers presumably have a sales territory that they can only sell to but it was not strictly enforced.  Apparently, enough Butterfly dealers have complained to Butterfly corporate about TT-Japan poaching their customers that Butterfly corporate has decided to enforce the territory restrictions.  It's still unclear as to why other Butterfly dealers can't compete price-wise with TT-Japan.  Maybe they can but are unwilling due to greed?
they buy the tenrgy for $42 and the price is set by butterfly at $64 thats how it is in the us
now some dealer give you a 10 to 15 % break if you negotiate
i cant reveal my source but i pay for my tenergy $ 55  

yeah my dealer told me a similar scenario, i get mine for $59 shipped
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In sweden a Tenergy sheeet cost 78$+.. Just buying 2 sheets of those makes you cry though I have never bought any of them. If anyone can pm me where they sell it for cheaper and send to sweden please PM me.
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The is painfull enough but in britain its $85! And tenergy 80 fx is currently $110!!!!!!!!! Although i expect it will go down once it is no longer viewed as being new!
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I won´t never buy any Tenergy again unless they set more reasonable prices. In Spain it´s 56.90€ which is close to 80$. That´s insane, considering we´re over 5 millions of unemployed citizens, still too much for an average spanish wallet.
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In Denmark it's $92 for any of the Tenergy rubbers!!!
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Beside the Big Mac lndex, the Tenergy Index should be established, too.
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I buying US$55 in our local shop
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in your signature it's says your using a Tenergy tho lol...
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