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    Posted: 06/20/2014 at 5:35am
Hi, I'm trying to complete the list of all  buttefly composite blades before the age of the codes, i.e. butterfly composite blades with no code and (normally) black-tag or without it. (code=serial number)

Some blades were not commercialized in Europa, so I have few information or knowledge about them. I don't consider the ones only made with CS and JP handle.

If someone was made only with one type of handle it is put ()

The blades under suspect that dont were built with black-tag and no code have an "*". I will get it off when it will be confirmed.

Could you help me to complete the list?. 

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Butterfly Ai Fukuhara Special 
Butterfly Allure (ST)
Butterfly Biside
Butterfly Cofferlait
Butterfly Ethel (FL?)
Butterfly David Jacobs
Butterfly Gergely large-len (FL)
Butterfly Gergely (FL)
Butterfly Gergely 21 
Butterfly Grubba Carbon
Butterfly Iolite
Butterfly Keyshot
Butterfly Kong Linghui Special & Premium
Butterfly Klampar T5000 (ST)
Butterfly Kumpuru
Butterfly Matsushita Pro Special
Butterfly Michael Maze
Butterfly Moonbeam
Butterfly Oberon
Butterfly Primorac Carbon
Butterfly Pulser
Butterfly Quetzal (ST)
Butterfly Retriever (ST?)
Butterfly Sardius (FL)
Butterfly Schlager Carbon
Butterfly Schlager Carbon Light
Butterfly Scorna T-5000 (FL)
Butterfly Special-S
Butterfly Timo Boll Spark
Butterfly Timo Boll Spirit
Butterfly Tamca-5000 (CO?)
Butterfly Tamca-5000 silver-len (CO?)
Butterfly Viscaria






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A more complete list here: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=57189&title=bty-al-and-alc-blades.
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Thanks Johnny, but I'm interested on older ones only

Edited by jabemu - 06/20/2014 at 8:05am
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There are so many.... among the T5000s you could add...

Butterfly Oberon
Butterfly Ethel
Butterfly Special-S
Butterfly David Jacobs
Butterfly Allure


Scorna T5000 only FL, Quetzal only ST, Klampar CO

Edited by Timo1978 - 08/17/2014 at 6:31am
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Thanks Timo I forget Oberon, Special-S and Allure, the others ones were unknown for me...
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Ai Fukuhara Special
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Butterfly Kumpuru

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Thanks Pondus!, Kumpuru all-round blade added

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Originally posted by tt-panopticum tt-panopticum wrote:

Ai Fukuhara Special

Did exist this blade with black tag and no-code?, Fukuhara is 25 years old only Confused


Edited by jabemu - 06/20/2014 at 10:37am
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IIRC I've seen at least one.... and I still have one 5ply off  Ai Fukuhare with black tag and without Ser. Nr. (I guess that's what you mean with "code"?)


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Originally posted by tt-panopticum tt-panopticum wrote:

IIRC I've seen at least one.... and I still have one 5ply off  Ai Fukuhare with black tag and without Ser. Nr. (I guess that's what you mean with "code"?)



Yes and thanks, I'm going to add it, but still I have some doubt.
I have seen the AF all-wood model with black tag but the T5000 model never (?)


Edited by jabemu - 06/20/2014 at 10:45am
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I think you should add Butterfly Gergely 21. I have seen them with old tags and without serial numbers.
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Originally posted by edizg edizg wrote:

I think you should add Butterfly Gergely 21. I have seen them with old tags and without serial numbers.

Thanks edizg, I have seen someones with black tag but with serial number (?)
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Yes, these versions also exists, but also the ones with black tag and without serial number. (http://www.pingpongboard.com/showdetail.asp?boardid=23336)
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Originally posted by edizg edizg wrote:

Yes, these versions also exists, but also the ones with black tag and without serial number. (http://www.pingpongboard.com/showdetail.asp?boardid=23336)

Please check here if you need a proofWink
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by edizg edizg wrote:

Yes, these versions also exists, but also the ones with black tag and without serial number. (http://www.pingpongboard.com/showdetail.asp?boardid=23336)

Please check here if you need a proofWink


Hi Dean, your thread can serve as reference Wink

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I ithink i can confirm Matsushita Pro Special.
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Ok Timo, we trust in your knowledge as collector Wink

It was made at least in Fl and ST handle, it is so?

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Yes, I have seen both, ST and FL. I have just watched your updated list and think collecting all models is already nearly impossible

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Originally posted by Timo1978 Timo1978 wrote:

Yes, I have seen both, ST and FL. I have just watched your updated list and think collecting all models is already nearly impossible
Yes...It would be a difficut but very pretty collection..to cellebrate if some collector has one Beer
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Originally posted by jabemu jabemu wrote:

Originally posted by Timo1978 Timo1978 wrote:

Yes, I have seen both, ST and FL. I have just watched your updated list and think collecting all models is already nearly impossible
Yes...It would be a difficut but very pretty collection..to cellebrate if some collector has one Beer

There are 7 of them that I don't have...
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Originally posted by Pondus Pondus wrote:

Originally posted by jabemu jabemu wrote:

Originally posted by Timo1978 Timo1978 wrote:

Yes, I have seen both, ST and FL. I have just watched your updated list and think collecting all models is already nearly impossible
Yes...It would be a difficut but very pretty collection..to cellebrate if some collector has one Beer

There are 7 of them that I don't have...


Wow!!.. you are very close!!
I can guess that are the following

Butterfly Allure
Butterfly Ethel
Butterfly David Jacobs
Butterfly Klampar T5000 (ST)
Butterfly Scorna T-5000 (FL)
Butterfly Special-S
Butterfly Tamca-5000

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Originally posted by jabemu jabemu wrote:

Originally posted by Pondus Pondus wrote:

Originally posted by jabemu jabemu wrote:

Originally posted by Timo1978 Timo1978 wrote:

Yes, I have seen both, ST and FL. I have just watched your updated list and think collecting all models is already nearly impossible
Yes...It would be a difficut but very pretty collection..to cellebrate if some collector has one Beer


There are 7 of them that I don't have...


Wow!!.. you are very close!!
I can guess that are the following

<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Butterfly Allure</span>
<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Butterfly Ethel</span>
<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Butterfly David Jacobs</span>
Butterfly Klampar T5000 (ST)
Butterfly Scorna T-5000 (FL)
<span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; : rgb251, 251, 253;">Butterfly Special-S</span>
Butterfly Tamca-5000

??




Since Pondus has nearly every model it is hard to guess. But i think he could lack these two since they are really hard to come by:

Nearly Impossible to get:
Oberon T5000
Special-S T5000

Very Hard to get:
David Jacobs
Tamca T5000

Edited by Timo1978 - 06/23/2014 at 6:41am
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Schlager Carbon Light should be in this list?
Some information about this?
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Originally posted by jabemu jabemu wrote:

Schlager Carbon Light should be in this list?
Some information about this?

Any blade with NEO / LIGHT / ALPHA version is inferior to the original ! LOL


Edited by E.ZegnaFan - 06/30/2014 at 11:15am


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LF: Old Stiga Clipper,Super Carbon in NEARLY NEW condition.
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Originally posted by E.ZegnaFan E.ZegnaFan wrote:

Originally posted by jabemu jabemu wrote:

Schlager Carbon Light should be in this list?
Some information about this?

Any blade with NEO / LIGHT / ALPHA version is inferior to the original ! LOL

 

That is obvious...

The question is if this model was made with black tag and no serial number.
In this case i think that Yes ...I have seen in the internet pics of this model without serial number, but the pics are not totally clear.

If someone has more information about this, it will be wellcome!


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Here Pondus can see some of the blades he needs to complete the "List"

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9722&PN=47&title=pictures-of-your-blade


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Originally posted by jabemu jabemu wrote:

Originally posted by E.ZegnaFan E.ZegnaFan wrote:

Originally posted by jabemu jabemu wrote:

Schlager Carbon Light should be in this list?
Some information about this?

Any blade with NEO / LIGHT / ALPHA version is inferior to the original ! LOL

 

That is obvious...

The question is if this model was made with black tag and no serial number.
In this case i think that Yes ...I have seen in the internet pics of this model without serial number, but the pics are not totally clear.

If someone has more information about this, it will be wellcome!

Confirmed!!
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For a minute there, I was thinking beer

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Originally posted by slowloop slowloop wrote:

For a minute there, I was thinking beer

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LOLLOL


So I put the surname "Carbon"


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