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Roger Stillabower
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I've almost bought a FB blade, the ALC one, but it is suppose to be same as the HL-5 in construction with a smaller head size, 150x157 I think.
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lucifer
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of course hl5 has softer feel. It's limba -> thick layer of wood -> carbon viscaria is koto -> carbon -> wood there's no question about this. the real deal now is the fang bo blade. small head, same composition as hl5, cheap price (60 usd). |
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Roger Stillabower
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I just read that the FB ALC blade has Koto outer ply.
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lucifer
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not likely, he was using hl5 before..........................
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Roger Stillabower
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check PROTT.CC web site, they list outer ply Koto.
Why would he have his own blade if it was identical to the HL-5 ? Edited by Roger Stillabower - 08/23/2016 at 7:58pm |
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lucifer
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limba 100%
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1p.5iLXXXXXaJXFXXq6xXFXXXk/DHS-Original-2016-New-Hurricane-font-b-BO-b-font-2-Hurricane-B2-for-font-b.jpg |
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Roger Stillabower
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I can't get anything from what your posting.
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lucifer
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look pic, if you can't tell it's limba we should not talk anymore.
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TurboZ
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Hurricane Bo ALC (B2) has the same head size as new HL5 of 150 x 156mm. Suppose the top ply is also limba, the same as HL5 but harder according to DHS. Both new HL5 and HB1 and HB2 are on sale at TT11 now.
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TurboZ
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The 7 ply all wood Hurricane B1 has Koto top. B2 does have the same look as HL5.
Below are HL5 (left) and B2 ALC (right). Edited by TurboZ - 08/23/2016 at 11:08pm |
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Roger Stillabower
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I can't tell by looking at the pictures, sorry.
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Saitama
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Looks the same to me.
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TurboZ
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In Prott, they only say the all wood B1 with Koto top ply. There is no mention of Koto in the description of B2. The picture indicating the Koto top ply belongs to B1, not B2 (ALC). Prott has put the wrong picture there.
All wood B1 with koto (above). B2 ALC with different wood (below) |
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Roger Stillabower
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I still think the FB ALC blade has a Koto outer ply just like his 7 ply all wood. Why would he have a blade with his name on it made by DHS same as the HL-5 ? That don't really make any sense.
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kurokami
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wat...looking to trade in my vis lol
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Viscaria
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TurboZ
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DHS made B2 harder than HL5. Just like W968 is harder than W997 but they all share the same structure. After all ML used W997 and later W968 while FB used W968 and B2 lately. The harder B2 does made perfect sense for FB. But then I bet what FB is using is better than commercial B2 anyway.
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kurokami
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vis is soft. if it feels stiff, you probably have a light one. that's the only explanation i can think of. unless you're used to playing maze, arylate wood, or some soft wood like OC. knocking on it may feel hard but when u spin or block with it, it's very soft for an A/C hence soft feel label.
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Viscaria
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TurboZ
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HL5 and B2 are meant to look the same with same material.
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lucifer
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probably carbonado is pretty similar too.
just a touch harder and faster. |
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slevin
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No. |
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Trade feedback:
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lucifer
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I still think carbonado is closer to hl5 than maze.
cause maze has kiri center which is another world. |
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tom
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anyone played with B2 and opinion?
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danjacob02
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I've played with both the HL5 and B2. HL5 is flexier and has more dwell time. B2 is harder and stiffer and is better for blocks. For a looper the HL5 would be better. The B2 would be better for those who like to block with their backhand or is an all-around player and loops with their Bhand less. Well still boils down to personal preference. Speed for both blades is about the same IMHO.
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tom
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thanks, B2 would have same or better loops than what well known blades (to gauge the level)?
Edited by tom - 08/25/2016 at 12:04pm |
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Would there be any alternative from the cheaper brands like Yinhe, KLT, 729 that can experience close to identical play of the HL5 or even HL3? Could be a good suggestion for a friend who doesn't want to spend so much money....
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nv42
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I tried the sanwei f3 bulldozer recently, it's got the same construction as the hl5 I guess! Uses some sort of dark I limba as the outer. I've only tried the hl5 for a few mins, but I can write down a comparison from what I remember.
F3B is a bit faster with a slight lower throw than the hl5. The f3B felt a bit less head heavy compared to the hl5 even though my friend had a 94g blade with a 45 and 48 deg tensor (nanoflex). Build quality Altually was on par, the f3B has a really really smooth handle with presanded wings and good lens quality too! Definitely not what I'd expect for the price (around 50euro). F3 bascially feels a bit more powerful for loop drives whereas the hl5 felt a bit better for Powerloops. The f3B had a bit more vibration, not the annoying kinda though. The arylate carbon muted feel was a bit more pronounced on the hl5. |
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asifgunz
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At 60-65 usd the bo2 looks really good.
If i didnt have 2 zxis and reordered my old friend 729 bomb (best blade under 30 usd) . I would be real interested in it. Maybe in a month once more reviews are up, i might just end up buying it. Shout outs to dhs for releasing a blade at this price range with construction that of or at least similar to hl5. Edited by asifgunz - 08/25/2016 at 9:04pm |
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kindof99
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What rubbers are good for HL5?
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MLfan
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of course hurricane and tenergy lol
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NextLevel
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Any good rubber goes with any good blade. Personal preferences not withstanding. |
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