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Hautamaeki
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Hi
I'm in a quest to find the best possible soft, yet with some bounce and good grip, tacky or not rubber for BH. Found some possible candidates like: Reactor cKylin Three Sword Prompt 61 second thunder LM ST Bomb UFO J Genote peak power Double fish hunting shadows FA213 well, I tried Ckylin, it's a very strange rubber, it's moderately fast, lets say andro hexer like, very but very easy to control but, it seem that doesnt have spin, it's very strange, if i use a little wrist it goes with some spin, if not , it's oreless like an anti top, very strange, but like it because I put so many balls on the table, even with top spin. Now, I ordered the bomb and the double fish lets see if they are any good. I would really like something with the control of ckylin, but with spin. Can anybody comment on the rubbers above? Thank you |
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cole_ely
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That's a pretty specific list. I can say I've tried all of those brands, but none of the rubbers probably.
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Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b
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JimT
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Played Reactor Ckylin 6 years ago. Cannot say it was soft, but certainly tacky. Wouldn't use it on BH.
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Try 729 Battle, Gambler Outlaw Soft.
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ahsq
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Kokutaku Blutenkirsche 868 Tokyo |
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Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
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vanjr
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1+ this. Worked great till I got 3 in a row that bubbled on me. |
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ahsq
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topsheet/sponge bubbled? what area?(i know anywhere is bad....)
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Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
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wanhao
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SWORD break 44 max..bought only for 10US thru TaoBao and its so value for money...hee
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Unique Subtle Rubber Topsheet by KTL, you never get from any other manufacturer..
http://eacheng.net/index.php?act=detail&ID=3649 This subtle topsheet rubber material give you a lot of good control and sharp feeling. Amasingly spinny topsheet, notably lighweight either. |
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vanjr
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Where you hit the ball, of course. |
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the_theologian
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this is a steal of a rubber would need booster to have the "bounce" the OP wants, however I actually just boosted a sheet (porous yellow sponge version) on my YEO cpen. Talk about making it come alive!!
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yogi_bear
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get the reactor ckylin blue sponge medium soft if you want it for the backhand. the red one is a good backhand rubber. its topsheet is "like" that of the vega series and the sponge is like a porous tensor sponge. for the forehand it has to be medium hard unless you want a soft rubber too. the Reactor Ckylin Blue Sponge is probably the best Chinese rubber under 15 usd.
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the_theologian
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is this the rubber we're talking about? |
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the_theologian
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how long has cKylin been around?? It has the old ITTF logo
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yogi_bear
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theo, the old one is not a blue sponge version. the new one with the blue sponge has just been released 2 months ago i think. here are the pics:
The topsheet is the same but the sponge is much better.
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the_theologian
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wow yogi, that looks promising!
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yogi_bear
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theo, yes it is. the topsheet is very grippy but with less tack. It is very spinny but i think H3 is spinnier. The ckylin is easier to handle and smash because it is not so sticky. The speed of the medium hard sponge is faster than the regular H3. Also, the red topsheet is not tacky after a day of using but very grippy.
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the_theologian
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so are you saying there's more than one hardness version of the blue sponge?
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yogi_bear
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yes, the medium soft version which is like 36-37 degrees dhs scale and the medium hard which is 39-40 degrees dhs scale. I have both.
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the_theologian
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hmm... I found a few places to order but I don't see the hardness specified
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yogi_bear
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you can ask the seller to check at the sponge where medium hard and medium soft is written
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the_theologian
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any chance you have the packaging for both and you can upload pics?
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the_theologian
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this is from the pic on the page I was about to order from (seller on aliexpress)
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the_theologian
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and I just checked eacheng's ebay page; same chinese characters for hardness
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yogi_bear
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try eacheng,net
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the_theologian
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already checked there... same as ebay page, one logo and no explanation (in English)
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yogi_bear
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here it is:
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the_theologian
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well, looks like i'll know when they arrive and I look at the sponge
don't think i can resist a couple sheets
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yogi_bear
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sponge on both hardness are the same. the lighting and distance made the color different
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the_theologian
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i meant because the hardness is written in english, which i didn't realize
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