Rasant Powergrip Vs MX-P

You may like the Xiom Omega series then, probably Tour.

However, and beware: the first MX-P sheet I played with (from Dandoy), clearly contained more booster than subsequent sheets (from tabletennis-point), and was significantly faster and spinnier than the Powergrip. So depending on the batch, your results will vary.      

All in all, I think they are rather similar rubbers with Powergrip having a slightly lower throw but better durability. 

Hmm. I haven't had any issues with shrinking  

I agree with pretty much everything was told except one major thing, I actually have a really good time flat hitting with RPG, exactly where two other guys had MX-P >> RPG

Edited: with a medium coach of booster MX-P becomes as good as RPG flat hitting, but I still don't find it better.

I can play with either on my FH, I just find it easier to lift underspin with RPG because the top sheet grabs the ball really well while away from the table MX-P has more power, with RPG you need to put more effort.

On my backhand I like MX-P better, I prefer higher throw rubbers there.

meketrefe wrote: the best rubber for flat hitting is tenergy by a long shot. above all tensors. then all tensors are pretty much in the same level.

I don't know, I had the opportunity to try T64 and T80 before and I found T64 ok flat hitting on a flexible looping blade while T80 was a lot better looping than flat hitting on this blade.

Today there was a dude with the same blade I was using (Donic Person Power Carbon) and we exchanged it for about twenty minutes so I could try T05 on a blade I'm used and I didn't find it a good flat hitting rubber at all. It's a looping machine, better than any other fast rubber I've tried on slow loops and somewhat as spiny and a bit slower than MX-P and M1 away from the table, but flat hitting spiny balls I got some weird trajectories, something I just overcome with Powergrip or M1 (MX-P sometimes does the same).

gekogark1212 wrote: Ummm the Bryce series is the hitting series, Tenergy was always and always has been marketed as the spin series. Bryce is the best hitting rubber. It is a dead lump of rubber that you just whack with. Bryce speed also retains this property of dead feeling.

That is the way I felt it with Tenergies, even if they are fast rubbers.

My Donic PPC has a Rasant Powergrip and the other had T05. In about 20 min I got the follow conclusions:

Speed: RPG ~ T05

Spin: T05 > RPG (close call) *they are both very good grabbing the ball to lift underspin

Throw angle T05 >> RPG , I had to adjust my stroke a fair amount closing the angle

Flat Hitting RPG >> T05 , against a spiny ball I can just hit thru it with RPG and it goes in, with T05 it is better to counter loop

I'm also using MX-P, MX-S and M1. RPG touch is closer to T05 than any of those other rubbers. MX-P is harder, MX-S is really harder and M1 has a different feel, probably the top sheet.

SmackDAT wrote: How is the durability of Powergrip? Would it be comparable in overall performance to, say MXP?

It's too early to talk about durability, but MXP is faster, harder and has a higher throw.

RPG is somewhat better for slow opening loops loaded of spin and flat hitting, but on power loops MXP may have a tad more spin.

I like them both on my forehand. I prefer RPG looping close to the table and it's also good from mid distance while you have to be careful looping with MXP close to the table, but it's a monster away.

On my backhand I like MXP a lot better, his higher throw and a bit more bounciness helps me a lot when away from the table where I don't have enough technique to clear the net with RPG the way I do with MXP.

Both rubbers block well and are ok pushing. Actively blocking with MXP earns me some points, I just have to be careful or I'll send the ball long.

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Andro Rasant Powergrip is a 50deg, big pore sponge with a nice soft grippy top sheet that feels a bit plasticy. It comes heavily boosted from the package and drops in performance in the next 2 weeks. Can be easily revived with boosters until the top sheet after months and months of playing loses the rubber feel and starts to feel more like plastic and dead. The soft top sheet allows for opening with banana flips surprisingly well, and chopping on or away off the table is far better achievement than I’ve ever done with Tenergies. It doesn’t bounce as much on low speed possibly due to being 50deg and unfortunately it requires heavy strokes to engage the hard sponge. Opposite what people have said so far I found this rubber better for flat hitting than for looping. It’s the rubber than fixed some issues I had on my backhand due to the low trajectory helping me to keep them on the table instead of arching them up until I fixed my technique. For forehand it requires a really upward motion compared to Tenergy 64. I sold a sheet to a guy who doesn’t play with spin but smashes and uses anti spin on his backhand (he twiddles). He absolutely adores it. While the loopers in our division did not like it as much, since it doesn’t bring nothing new to the table. Good for blocking, far more controllable as it doesn’t bounce on no pace balls, this helps with pushes and near the net play. It’s a bit too reactive to incoming spin unfortunately and requires active stroke and a lot of times very loose wrist depending on what blade you put it on. The top hidden gears are amazing though and you can make a Tenergy opponent tap out on counter loops one after another. That’s when the ball really starts to sink in.

 

I hope this information helps you. I don’t use this rubber anymore and I don’t plan on going back to it as I definitely prefer more looping instead of power loops and smashes. Saying that I am looking for Tenergy 64 alternative as I won’t be spending that much money for a new sheet. Unfortunately, I have not tried the MX-P yet and I have heard from local guys implying it’s also a better smashing / flat hitting rubber than a spinny looper like T05, which goes against what forums and internet says being T05 alternative.     

I'm going to be honest, when I did my testing I was not using the plastic ball which might be a complete game changer. Right now I struggle to spin these balls and I can see how the Rasant PG maybe more suitable, but anything I get for my new setup will be in 1.8mm and just roid it up a bit. So as you see I'm also very interested in this topic since MX-P has been on my list of try rubbers. That or EL-S when its finally available maybe the one.