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assam
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Ok Barack, you know... I didn't find it much faster. But I've found MX-P much faster than T05. T05 and EL-S don't have such a big difference, but probably depends on your strokes...
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nv42
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Haha! Well, if all you do is hit winners with your bh, then it definitely won't be slow :P
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1.dhs pg2 fl
-FH t05h (max) -BH tibhar genius (max) |
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NextLevel
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Yeah. And I am Barack Obama. |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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assam
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No, it's not that slow. Pretty much he same speed as T05
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rocketman222
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I so want to try EL-S on my backhand, but i m afraid it will be super slow compared to MX-P or 05
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seguso
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so fai I tried el-p and fx-p. fx-p is faster on bh loops with the wrist only. I assume it's the same with els and fxs, cause it's due to the hardness.
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pg5x - mxd fh & bh - 2015 video
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mog1111
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I think fx-s is for mortals. a bit like tenergy 05 fx. for people who want to try and play a modern offence game but don't quite have the skillset to play with full versions
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jonyer1980
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Have you tried both of them? I fear FX-S to be quite slower than EL-S which isn´t really fast for my liking.
Edited by jonyer1980 - 11/05/2016 at 8:27am |
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seguso
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of course.. fx is the right hardness for backhand. ON backhand, sometimes you can only do a quick wrist motion, and when you do that, the ball must shoot forward and fast, not upwards and slow. With fx, the ball shoots low and forward and fast, with el, it shoots high and slow and spinny.
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AndySmith
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That's what all slappers say, in my experience....
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NextLevel
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FX-S was the best slapping rubber I ever used. I just wasn't convinced that I wanted to be a slapper.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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jonyer1980
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I´m not really happy with ELS on my BH, I was used to Traction II with loads of booster and this one is quite slower, spinnier and higher arc with more sensitive topsheet. I´m thinking if FX-S will fit my BH better than this one...
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nv42
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Even though the mx-s topsheet feels a bit softer than mx-p, I found it a tad more rigid and less elastic compared to the mx-p topsheet, because of which it gets that lower throw maybe.
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1.dhs pg2 fl
-FH t05h (max) -BH tibhar genius (max) |
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seguso
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Not small pored? Very interesting. Harder topsheet could provide slightly higher throw, and could give it more arc than elp at full power. what is strange, though, is that MXS has softer topsheet than MXP (and lower throw.)
Edited by seguso - 10/31/2016 at 4:17pm |
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nv42
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Oh well, guess it doesn't matter since yu ordered it already. Waiting for your thoughts :) |
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1.dhs pg2 fl
-FH t05h (max) -BH tibhar genius (max) |
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jonyer1980
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Thanks dude. i hope you will share your experience with us as well.Im not fully satisfied with ELS on my BH due to its sensitive topsheet to incoming spin. I would like to try a softer FXS as well...
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seguso
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thank you guys, I've ordered el-s and fx-s, I'll let you know how it goes...
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mog1111
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I did not like el-p or fx-p
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mog1111
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I serve better with fx-s
block better with fx-s loop is a bit harder because of lower throw spin is higher I think drive is better tight game is safer this is on a ligna off blade |
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mog1111
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I think I am about to leave my beloved tenergy 05fx and switch to evolution fx-s
brexit made me do it |
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assam
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I think EL-S is a great improvement for Evo series
Edited by assam - 10/31/2016 at 7:17am |
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assam
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I didn't notice less catapult in EL-S, but each one has their preferences (the same way I didn't notice differences in FX-S and FX-P). I never tried MX-S so I can't compare it to MX-P... If you could you should try one from a friend
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slevin
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For same hardness as EL-P: Rakza 9 (I liked this more than EL-P, especially with the plastic ball) |
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seguso
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My doubt is... El-s in theory should have even less catapult than El-P, because of the smaller pored sponge. (like MX-S has less catapult than MX-P). I wouldn't like to buy EL-s and discover it is even slower than el-p...
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assam
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I think it is a little faster on fast strokes. I had no trouble on serve. I could make really spinny serves
I've just changed to Rising Drangon because I felt it too soft for my FH. I still have it on BH
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nv42
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El-s may have a bit more top end speed and spin than el-p, but I guess el-p should be a lot more easier to use in the lower and middle gears. It did work well for me on FH on all attacking strokes, enough speed and spin and kinda felt like I was playing t05 during rallies, but I just can't seem to get used to the kinda right topsheet for my overall game, especially serves.
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seguso
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Hi guys, I am using EL-P on fh, I am looking for something a bit faster but with the same control. Slightly harder is ok. Is EL-S faster than EL-P?
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nv42
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El-s pips are indeed similar to that of t05, the spacing and pip length espeically, though the el-s pips might be a tad bit wider. This is why i couldnt understand how some ppl found it insensitive to spin. The top sheet is a bit right and hence might feel a bit non- reactive at soft touches, but you will definitely feel how reactive it is while blocking someone's topspin off a push.
However, even with such a spin sensitive topsheet I still don't understand why it can't produce enough spin in serves. |
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neon
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Hello friends, in net I found some pictures of pips of EL-S and FX-S. Think pips are a little bit wider with a little bit less distance between pips... may be something like t05. See pictures of t05 and old evolution in:
http://tt-maximum.com/forum/index.php?topic=4916.0 Tks.
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FXP 39.1-41.1 FX-S 41-43 EL-P 42.4-44.4 EL-S 43.8-45.8 MX-P 45.7-47.7 MX-S 46.3-48.3 |
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