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mog1111 
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 Topic: Tibhar Evolution FX-S & EL-SPosted: 06/04/2017 at 5:28pm |
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its working wonders for me on the wsc. I can drive the ball again.
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Posted: 06/04/2017 at 1:34pm |
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think ill stick with 2.0mm
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Posted: 06/03/2017 at 2:06pm |
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Would agree. Didn't find the max to be spinnier, just faster and less controllable.
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Posted: 06/03/2017 at 11:49am |
I think it's spinnier but it's not a big different between 2.0, not overwhelming. |
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Posted: 06/02/2017 at 3:17pm |
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Dreiz, are you finding the max el-s better? Spinnier?
im getting a new sheet not sure whether to move up to max, its going on a walner senso carbon and im tempted to go up to max for my fh is the black softer? |
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DreiZ
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Posted: 05/14/2017 at 11:48am |
still using it, still loving it. Im actually boosting 2 older ELS 2.0mm sheets that i have to see how they play with booster. They are about 3-4 months old which i played with once a week. Going to try them tomorrow. Edited by DreiZ - 05/14/2017 at 11:49am |
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Posted: 05/14/2017 at 10:38am |
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I find EL-S great for blocking, whether using dead-hand technique or chop blocking.
The FH topspin is a tad slower compared to the MX-P but is much easier to execute thus leading to more consistent play at my level. |
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mog1111
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Posted: 05/14/2017 at 6:48am |
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anyone still using el-s
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nv42
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Posted: 04/07/2017 at 11:45am |
I made quite a few similar observations too. Edited by nv42 - 04/07/2017 at 2:50pm |
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Posted: 04/06/2017 at 5:40pm |
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I´ve been switching from MX-P to EL-S on my RW-V´s on my FH
My conclusions: It´s not spinnier than MXP at all, but definitely more balanced. The topsheet looks grippier than MXP but on services it´s not as spinnier though :( If you play with 5ply allwood it might be a bit slow from mid distance for power looping, but close to the table you´ve got tons of control, way better than MXP since it´s not as bouncy so slower, which means better for short game or touch/finesse shots on the table. Lower throw than MXP. I would rate as medium; MXP has quite higher throw. I´ll give a few sessions more but honestly i´m not fully convinced with it as a FH rubber, since i can loop effordless with MXP and produce more deadly shots in spite of the lack of control compared to ELS, which imo needs to engage to a bit more sponge/topsheet. |
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Makelele
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Posted: 03/30/2017 at 10:41pm |
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Vic, what domyou mean by " easier to play than MX-S"? That is easier to generate more speed or spin, or that is more forgiving when you play an imperfect stroke?
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Posted: 03/30/2017 at 12:42am |
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Tried EL-S at BH on my new ITC blade. Last year I played Viscaria+MX-S@BH.
All in all - very good rubber, easier to play than MX-S. Like it a lot. Strongly recommended. Good match with carbon blades, I guess. |
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Posted: 03/24/2017 at 1:50pm |
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I found EL-S to be very picky in terms of blades you are using. I played it on innerforce ZLC. Much better than on my zealot. On donic waldner offensive it is really slow and not spinny.
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Posted: 03/24/2017 at 10:35am |
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Boosting it did not work out as I had expected. Control improved but it was not as dangerous any more.
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Posted: 03/17/2017 at 7:41am |
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I like el-s on my fh, but I don't like it in on my bh.
I'm not going back to tenergy anymore, gonna focus on playing better shots. Edited by mog1111 - 03/17/2017 at 7:41am |
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Posted: 03/05/2017 at 5:16pm |
I just put the first layer of oil on them. We will see what happens. |
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Posted: 03/04/2017 at 12:34pm |
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After few months with ELS, it became a bit softer (slower?) but the grip is still there, lots of it actually. I also noticed it does a little bit better in warmer environment compared to the colder temps.
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Posted: 03/04/2017 at 7:51am |
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Mine is ok after 3weeks
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Posted: 03/04/2017 at 1:55am |
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My EL-S seems ok after 30+ hours of play and training including multiball. However I did mention what you said about speed bug grip is still there.
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Posted: 03/03/2017 at 7:14pm |
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tenergy to the rescue, expensive but it does last
Edited by mog1111 - 03/17/2017 at 7:42am |
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Posted: 03/03/2017 at 6:12pm |
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Booster to the rescue?
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Posted: 03/03/2017 at 6:12pm |
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That ugly Tibhar sickness has taken down my sheets of ELS. They have lost their grip after about 5 weeks of use. They are still spinny but they are a lot more difficult to lift underspin with. Also, they have lost some speed which is noticeable during rallies. I spent 3 hours playing with Joola Flash this evening and lost many points because of this.
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Posted: 02/21/2017 at 4:41am |
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it must be me with rubbish technique. ha ha ha
I do like el-s though |
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Posted: 02/21/2017 at 4:38am |
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Not really tbough you would need to know how to brush the ball properly.
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Posted: 02/21/2017 at 4:05am |
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yogi, would you agree you need good technique to get the spin out of el-s, probably because of the hardness?
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Posted: 02/20/2017 at 6:34pm |
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Maxxx-p is a different rubber compared to els. Els is spinnier and feels harder.
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Posted: 02/20/2017 at 8:18am |
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my EL-S has arrived for my bh in 1.9mm so lets see how that works out
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Posted: 02/16/2017 at 1:57pm |
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just one kind and just a few bucks more
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Posted: 02/16/2017 at 1:19pm |
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Is there just one kind of Maxxx-p? I guess you mean just different thicknesses.
Looks good but not cheap... Edited by WeebleWobble - 02/16/2017 at 1:25pm |
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Posted: 02/16/2017 at 1:17pm |
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Weeble, can't help exactly the way you want because I haven't played with the FXP thought I have played with the ELS alot and have two DTC. From what you have said I suggest from one of the combos MAXXX-P for your BH. good control and spin, adequate driving power and should be close to softness to you Rhyzm. I estimate the FXP is softer than that range.
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