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No, I asked them to send me the lightest they have.
I have 3 such blades, ranging from 84 to 90. It is not a big difference but it is a difference.
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you can ask for the weights that are in stock (prott and ttnpp).
but if you want a specific weight for the blade, you have to add ca. 2 gr because they will weighing the blade with the protective foil.
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My H301 just arrived. Can't wait to play with it!!  Tongue


Anyone does happen to know good blade sealing solution??. As I spent enough bucks on this one, don't want to have the grain splinter when changing rubbers. also, I'd like to use elmer rubber cement for gluing the rubbers. Would it be ok? or would tear mender does a better job? Your suggestions would be much appreciated. 


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Can't wait for the review :)
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where is the carbon next to the core or under the koto ply?
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Its next to the core
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Sealed with hardwaxoil





and here you can see the composition with the fibre directly over the core.



Weight of both blades = perfect (89g), but unfortunately the handle is too concave (thin in the middle)


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Originally posted by purpletiesto purpletiesto wrote:

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hair spray was fine as a "apply each time" solution before speed gluing or using rubber cement based glues.

it won't protect the top plies from changing rubbers or from any of the newer non VOC water based glues or substitutes like tearmender.

Donic makes a decent water based sealer.

Some people swear by wipe on polyurethane.

Too much and they change the feel of the blade.
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Have anyone played with Yinhe Pro Feeling and Pro Power ? The Pro Feeling is the composition with H301.
It's great to hear the comparison 3 of them , which Are pros and cons for D40+ era !
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@Magic_M The thin handle is actually what I like on my H301. Since I’m playing with soft rubbers, The handle is in my favour on both FH and BH. I can twist my wrist more in banana flicks on my bh, and soft loops on my fh.

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Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

Originally posted by purpletiesto purpletiesto wrote:

hair spray

hair spray was fine as a "apply each time" solution before speed gluing or using rubber cement based glues.

it won't protect the top plies from changing rubbers or from any of the newer non VOC water based glues or substitutes like tearmender.

Donic makes a decent water based sealer.

Some people swear by wipe on polyurethane.

Too much and they change the feel of the blade.

Good point.

These days I only use Nittaku Racket Protect sealant and Nittaku Fine Zip glue. But I figured since it isn't an expensive blade, perhaps go with a more budget option, instead of spending the same amount in sealant and glue. I'm sure there are equally as good alternatives which are much cheaper, that I'm unaware of, though.


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Man, I'm happy this topic came up again.

Because..
Every day I play with this blade the more convinced I become. This is the best blade I've played with.
It's completely non-bouncy, short backspin touches, pushes and chops are crisp, low, accurate and easy.

Serves are a delight for the same reason, lots of spin with little bounce.
Topspins are SHARP, fast and direct. You can do a 'feel', high ball topspin with this but it's not what this blade is about. Catch the ball right and kill. Just amazing stuff.

In the past couple of months I've been trying out more of the Sweden Extra, Liu Shiwen and DHS301 with the same rubbers to see what to use come tournament time.. What I feel most comfortable with and matching to how I play. It has better control then the famed Sweden Extra and while slightly less spinny (a lot more direct) than the Liu Shiwen, the Liu Shiwen and those other fancy blades tend to have the most annoying bounciness to them.
This is just perfect.


Sure there are blades that can generate speed with less dedication, but I've yet to see a blade so perfect at the short game while still being very powerful, low throw, crisp in the topspin game.

Just a miracle blade for the money.


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Originally posted by Lightzy Lightzy wrote:

Man, I'm happy this topic came up again.

Because..
Every day I play with this blade the more convinced I become. This is the best blade I've played with.
It's completely non-bouncy, short backspin touches, pushes and chops are crisp, low, accurate and easy.

Serves are a delight for the same reason, lots of spin with little bounce.
Topspins are SHARP, fast and direct. You can do a 'feel', high ball topspin with this but it's not what this blade is about. Catch the ball right and kill. Just amazing stuff.

In the past couple of months I've been trying out more of the Sweden Extra, Liu Shiwen and DHS301 with the same rubbers to see what to use come tournament time.. What I feel most comfortable with and matching to how I play. It has better control then the famed Sweden Extra and while slightly less spinny (a lot more direct) than the Liu Shiwen, the Liu Shiwen and those other fancy blades tend to have the most annoying bounciness to them.
This is just perfect.


Sure there are blades that can generate speed with less dedication, but I've yet to see a blade so perfect at the short game while still being very powerful, low throw, crisp in the topspin game.

Just a miracle blade for the money.
So it's basically a innerforce Viscaria, just like how a Apolonia ZLC/Innerforce ALC is an innerforce Mizutani ZLC/Freitas ALC. I imagine it would be a good blade but far from a game changer, would be nice to try an innerforce Visc from butterfly themselves though
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Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

So it's basically a innerforce Viscaria, just like how a Apolonia ZLC/Innerforce ALC is an innerforce Mizutani ZLC/Freitas ALC. I imagine it would be a good blade but far from a game changer, would be nice to try an innerforce Visc from butterfly themselves though


Yes, normal size head (slightly elongated perhaps), koto outside, good carbon weave near the core.

Also it doesn't have the same upper-tier power as viscaria has in its highest gear but it's more stable and linear, and better on the short game. Butterfly just make everything too bouncy. At least for me.

It's not made from the highest quality wood though, which you can tell  by looking at it from the direction of the handle. Not quality like the blades that cost 3 times what it costs, but it is still better than anything else I played with. For me :)


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Originally posted by Lightzy Lightzy wrote:

Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

So it's basically a innerforce Viscaria, just like how a Apolonia ZLC/Innerforce ALC is an innerforce Mizutani ZLC/Freitas ALC. I imagine it would be a good blade but far from a game changer, would be nice to try an innerforce Visc from butterfly themselves though


Yes, normal size head (slightly elongated perhaps), koto outside, good carbon weave near the core.

Also it doesn't have the same upper-tier power as viscaria has in its highest gear but it's more stable and linear, and better on the short game. Butterfly just make everything too bouncy. At least for me.

It's not made from the highest quality wood though, which you can tell  by looking at it from the direction of the handle. Not quality like the blades that cost 3 times what it costs, but it is still better than anything else I played with. For me :)



Completely agree with you lightzy. My game has improved tons actually. I wanted to buy viscaria before I’ve come across this blade and I’m glad I got H301 instead. While I’m still struggling with fh loops due to lack of technique, this blade gives me enough confidence on the risky last minute strokes with less effort. Also, the palio ak47 blue for FH and focus3snipe for my BH seems to suit my style. Offers enough dwell on the passive blocks. I also have the same focus3snipe on my yinhe T11+, but I can tell the difference that my BH topspins, placement was never as good as its right now with H301.
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Hey guys , how does this blade play compared to the fang bo B2 carbon? Im currently playing with the fang bo and have enjoyed it, but I’m thinking maybe giving the 301 a try as well.
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I won't be caught dead with a pink handled blade so I don't know.
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Originally posted by thelooper12 thelooper12 wrote:

Hey guys , how does this blade play compared to the fang bo B2 carbon? Im currently playing with the fang bo and have enjoyed it, but I’m thinking maybe giving the 301 a try as well.
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Have you considered that the blades are different in terms of the outter plies? The Bo has limba and the H301 has koto.Wink
So the playing characteristics will be different!
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does someone testet the dhs pg5, yinhe v14 pro or the yinhe galaxy pro feeling, the dhs pg5 is not very fast right ? thank you very much for your help
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Originally posted by Lightzy Lightzy wrote:

I won't be caught dead with a pink handled blade so I don't know.
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I though this blade was as fast as Fang BO 2, but according to the reviews of this polish guy its more control based and rated as  a OFF-. I 

I considered about purchasing it, but finally  discarded it, because i though FB2 limba outer ply would have more dwell and control than this, but so after all i finally bought FB 2 which in fact its abit fast for my taste.  But now , a few folks state that this one t´s indeed  a OFF- range with more dwell and flex  that confusses me once again. Confused  So if this is like this, then it might be my replacement for my seasoned RW-VStar


Edited by jonyer1980 - 04/29/2018 at 11:44am
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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

I though this blade was as fast as Fang BO 2, but according to the reviews of this polish guy its more control based and rated as  a OFF-.

I did like FB2 but it was a bit fast for my taste.  If this it´s indeed  a OFF- range with more dwell and flex  then it might be my replacement for my seasoned RW-VStar




it for sure not OFF-. it solid OFF
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If only DHS would make a handle that is compatible with larger hands. Had this issue with the HL5/W968 already and now this seems to be even worse.
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

I though this blade was as fast as Fang BO 2, but according to the reviews of this polish guy its more control based and rated as  a OFF-.

I did like FB2 but it was a bit fast for my taste.  If this it´s indeed  a OFF- range with more dwell and flex  then it might be my replacement for my seasoned RW-VStar




it for sure not OFF-. it solid OFF

That is what i was thinking off. BTW, does it feel head heavy? How performs with heavy rubbers?

Would you think it´s faster than RWV?


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its not head heavy. maybe just a bit. handle not comfortable as h0n1g mentioned. too thin.
can't compare to RWV
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

I though this blade was as fast as Fang BO 2, but according to the reviews of this polish guy its more control based and rated as  a OFF-.

I did like FB2 but it was a bit fast for my taste.  If this it´s indeed  a OFF- range with more dwell and flex  then it might be my replacement for my seasoned RW-VStar




it for sure not OFF-. it solid OFF


Coming from all-wood blade, this one is definitely OFF to OFF+. In fact, I started using T80 as FH which was fine with my previous blade Hurricane Hao II, it was way too fast on this blade. After I changed to the slower Baracuda 2.0, feel just about right.
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Can anyone compare the H301 and Yinhe Pro Feeling, I think they have same composition except the koto with dark color on H301
Moreover, I heard that Yinhe's quality is a bit better at the same price range
The ST handle is another reason as well
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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

I though this blade was as fast as Fang BO 2, but according to the reviews of this polish guy its more control based and rated as  a OFF-.

I did like FB2 but it was a bit fast for my taste.  If this it´s indeed  a OFF- range with more dwell and flex  then it might be my replacement for my seasoned RW-VStar




it for sure not OFF-. it solid OFF

That is what i was thinking off. BTW, does it feel head heavy? How performs with heavy rubbers?

Would you think it´s faster than RWV?
H301 is faster than FB2. It's like TB ALC vs Maze, or Mizutani vs ZJK ZLC
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