Transition from H3Neo to Euro/Jap

Hi,

Edited by ashishsharmaait - 01/10/2018 at 12:11am

If you've been using H3N commercial, just move to National and put in a couple weeks to adjust (w/o boosting). That's what I did in the exactly same situation. I had to put some weight on the top of the blade, though (the new sheet was lighter), but after a month of play I am able to engage the unboosted sponge properly with no problems at all (using Prov #20 39 deg on a Clipper).
P.S. And yes, I was feeling it sucked during the first 2-3 sessions

Edited by al_111 - 01/10/2018 at 2:09am

I have found pleasure in switching to Non Chinese rubber. No need boosting. No need 2 weeks to break in rubber. No dusty topsheet. No heavy rubber. More lasting before changing a new rubber. I use GOLD ARC8. And less effort in driving the ball now. Switch!

Strictly from a topspin and driving perspective, Stiga genesis M is very very spinny without any change in technique. I can't comment about short game and serving/receiving but I did do some topspin rallies with my coach's setup and it was superb

MX-S is pretty easy if you are coming from H3.

AndySmith wrote: If you still want some tack, but extra ESN speed and catapult, Tibhar Hybrid K1 If you want grippy ESN (non-tacky), you need something hard and spinny.  MX-S and Omega V Asia are the two obvious ones.

Lightzy wrote: If you enjoy the deadly spin of a tacky hard rubber but dont feel like boosting try 729 Battle 2. It's basically like an upgraded h3.. it has speed for drives and smashes, it has some catapult and tackiness is turned up to 11.

I second that; there's a difference with H3 in a throw, though, - it's pretty low in B2. Big Dipper is another successful hybrid with a throw close to that of H3. There's also Apollo 5 but I haven't tried it, so cannot make comments.

ashishsharmaait wrote: Hi, I would like to know if people have moved to anything other than Tenergy from a boosted H3N and their experience in doing so? I had started using H3N about 3 years back and earlier used to play with T05 on FH. I had some trouble moving from T05 but after a good 3-4 months, I was set with H3N and my overall game has improved considerably since. But boosting regularly is a hassle and wastes a lot of time (which I don't have with 2 kids @ home now). Has anyone moved from H3 to something not T05? A hard tensor like MX-S or R50? I am worried about the unlearning and the re-learning now that I only play 3 times a week. Thanks

ohwell wrote: Looking at the suggestions, I'm starting to wonder what aspects of your play with h3n you most want to preserve.  E.g.  Linearity? (Non-bouncy short game/low catapult + tons of upper gears)  Looping stroke?  Arc?  Lower slip on brush contact?

ashishsharmaait wrote: ohwell wrote: Looking at the suggestions, I'm starting to wonder what aspects of your play with h3n you most want to preserve.  E.g.  Linearity? (Non-bouncy short game/low catapult + tons of upper gears)  Looping stroke?  Arc?  Lower slip on brush contact?  Non-bouncy short game, dead feel in short game, high top-end speed and most importantly grip at every angle.

Hmm, depends on what you have in mind by grip at every angle: esp, on the amount of spin you are working against. Afaik good tacky rubbers like the H3N will always have the edge over non tacky rubbers as far as angles that won’t slip when countering heavy incoming spin. If that’s your priority you might want to look into tacky rubbers with good speed glue effect out of the box. (Many suggestions above; there are also the few ESN tacky rubbers that might be worth a look.)

If you’re ok giving up a little slip resistance, you might be very happy with the more linear, less bouncy ESN/jap offerings folks have suggested above. I’ve only tried the medium sponge, but I wonder if Karis m+ or h might also work for you. (Very linear, and the topsheet can take extreme spin.)

On a hard blade Aurus Prime will do the job. Although it has a lot of catapult when hit hard. Vega pro is not so jumpy and the top sheet is even harder and more direct - good alternative. Vega China is closest to H3 tensor I have tried. Xiom Tau is tackier, but more jumpy, so  vega china has more chinese feel.

Self-proclaimed USATT ~2050. Should know what he is doing.

vvk1 wrote: So one sheet of H3N lasted you only 2 months? Omg, wow. Is there a video of you playing?

ohwell wrote: NextLevel wrote: MX-S is pretty easy if you are coming from H3. What about Karis H?

ashishsharmaait wrote: I was looking more for suggestions on hybrid Chinese rubbers and some offbeat 50 Degree ESN rubbers which have a hard topsheet (something like an improved Sigma 1 Pro). ...and what I do not want to waste is time....money is ok...but time...no. I could go back to T05 if I find nothing or I may stick to H3N and continue boosting when required.