EL-S or Bluestorm Z1

I have played both rubbers and to me they are very different. EL-S is slower and generates a little more spin on slower shots. Z1 is faster and on all out strokes generates more spin. My issue with the new Bluestorm rubbers (Z1/Z2) was the throw angle. It may have been the blades but it just seemed really low.

Edited by jpenmaster - 04/01/2018 at 3:46pm

Not worry about the throw at all, it’s spin I need , maybe should just go back to T05

jpenmaster wrote: I went back to T05..

   

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rocketman222 wrote: Yep, the new crop of esn rubbers all seem to have very low spin and speed on slower shots.

I'm really liking BSZ1. I play a more forward loop game than a spin game but honestly, if you need spin and brush hard Z1 offers plenty. The speed of agressive loops is amazing I find.
Z1 on FH with Viscaria.
If you play a spin game T05 is a great choice obviously.


Edited by CroNone - 04/01/2018 at 11:59pm

rocketman222 wrote: Yep, the new crop of esn rubbers all seem to have very low spin and speed on slower shots.

Edited by slevin - 04/02/2018 at 2:45pm

rocketman222 wrote: Here's the thing, since we are talking about different esn generations, take g1,mxp and r47, they are all supposed to be the same hardness more or less, but you can see that they are very different at low speed shots.

One thing that I really hate abt these new gen rubbers is the not so great spin on serves compared to the older generation stuff.

Stavros wrote: EL-S vs. Bluestorm Z1 regarding durability ?

Durability is better on Bluestorm , try it again last night , both rubbers was on the same kind of blade, ELS is a bit slower and still not enough spin, Bluestorm is a bit better but nothing like wow, just order T05 😣

Z1 Is pretty durable compared to EL-S. Seems to hold it top sheet well.

Stavros wrote: Against heavy underspin Z1 and ELS are faster than T05, aren 't they?

Kinda , it’s easier to lift but will not have a bunch of spin, that was my issue, both are super easy to play with, but nothing good on the ball

Great discussion and since all of you are using or have used these modern ESN rubbers I'd like your input on a few things.

From the following rubbers:


Z1
MX-P
R48
Aurus Prime
Gold Arc 8
Tenergy 05


1) Rate them in terms of spin on serves and slow spiny opening loops

2) Rate them in terms of topspin rallies

3) Rate them in terms of speed

4) Rate them in terms of durability ( shrinkage, topsheet or sponge crumbling )

5) Is it still worth spending $70+ for Tenergy rubbers?


Thanks in advance.

SmackDAT wrote: Go for a MX-P with the 4 for 3 deal and buy some booster, best value for money to be honest. I don't like ultramax rubbers for forehand as they are too linear  I use Aurus Prime on BH because I like the dwell of ultramax, but most importantly soft topsheet for backhand flicks.

I have had used MX-P in max thickness for about a year before switching to DHS GA 8. It was a crazy good rubber, super fast, great on serves and slow spiny loops but it was hard to do counter rallies from mid distance as it required greater power/effort. This was evident especially after a couple of weeks of usage when the factory booster started wearing off and the rubber started to shrink.

Due to these reasons I tried DHS GA 8 and fell in love with it, although it is not as fast or spiny, it suits my game and gives me great confidence in pressure situations and it's quite durable. I gave trials and got selected for Nationals with this great rubber. However, now that I am playing with much higher rated players ( National Level ) I feel that it's lacking the speed and spin to cause my opponents much difficulty in returning my shots.

I have tried Tenergy 05, 64, 80 briefly and switched them on my BH as for some reason I could not utilize them to their full potential on my FH. I could not generate enough speed or spin with them as compared to MX-P or DHA GA 8. Could it be my technique or case of fake Tenergies?

A friend of mine who has played both rubbers, say that spin and control are similar to both rubbers. Z1 is slightly faster.

A lot of top players in the UK like boosted MXP both sides with a 7 ply clipper like blade (namely FPBE), talking top 5