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Originally posted by cftt-blades cftt-blades wrote:

Originally posted by Pr1nc Pr1nc wrote:

Whats the difference in short between ABS balls and plastic balls?


ABS is just a different type of plastic, specifically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylonitrile_butadiene_styrene



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Originally posted by juanma4080 juanma4080 wrote:

Where I can find this ABS balls?

DHS D40+
TSP CP40+
Donic P40+
San Wei ABS Pro
Joola Prime ABS
Butterfly A40+

and many others..
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Originally posted by cftt-blades cftt-blades wrote:

I've been using Nittakku 3* Premium 40+ plastic balls since they came out, and they are exceptional.  All of the tournaments I run use them, and most of the tournaments I participate in use them as well unless they are specifically sponsored by a manufacturer (i.e Joola Teams or something like that).  I've found the ABS balls to be far superior to any other previous generation of plastic balls (i.e. seamless Xushaofa balls, which tend to shatter on edge impact, are lighter than ABS balls, and tend to float a lot rather than have a consistent ball flight imho).

I've also tried some other ABS plastic balls since they've come out such as DHS's D40+ ball and Butterfly's A40+ ball and found them both to be acceptable alternatives to Nittaku, though I still feel the Nittakku is the best overall 40+ Ball on the market.


This is it - consistency and predictability of bounce and trajectory is the key reason why ABS balls are superior. 
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Where I can find this ABS balls?
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Originally posted by Pr1nc Pr1nc wrote:

Whats the difference in short between ABS balls and plastic balls?

ABS is just a different type of plastic, specifically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylonitrile_butadiene_styrene

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Same story here. Depending on the area or the seller we one that the seller is interested about selling it. We use from Xushaofa (first& most common) to old gen Butterfly G series or Nittaku Premium or relabelled Xushaofa like Joola Flash. It's a hassle
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I've been using Nittakku 3* Premium 40+ plastic balls since they came out, and they are exceptional.  All of the tournaments I run use them, and most of the tournaments I participate in use them as well unless they are specifically sponsored by a manufacturer (i.e Joola Teams or something like that).  I've found the ABS balls to be far superior to any other previous generation of plastic balls (i.e. seamless Xushaofa balls, which tend to shatter on edge impact, are lighter than ABS balls, and tend to float a lot rather than have a consistent ball flight imho).

I've also tried some other ABS plastic balls since they've come out such as DHS's D40+ ball and Butterfly's A40+ ball and found them both to be acceptable alternatives to Nittaku, though I still feel the Nittakku is the best overall 40+ Ball on the market.

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In Belgium leagues, we still use the plastic balls, generally xhushuofa
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Hi,

Going back to the beginning of this era, I have found the plastic ball implementation interesting in the USA.  Clearly is recalled what occurred in what I term "the first year of the plastic ball," the ITTF commitment to the new ball in their competitions, the terrible quality in bounce, roundness, and overall consistency.

I said at that time that it will be interesting to see how the equipment ruling class approaches this new era, as the celluloid ball is still legal and approved for competitions everywhere except with the ITTF events.  My incorrect speculation was that, in the USA, the equipment dealers, via their sponsorships of USATT tournaments, would logically and prudently burn through their stock of very high quality 3-star celluloids until these balls were close to extinction, then switch to the new, awful plastics.  I couldn't have been more incorrect, as the USATT tournaments immediately embraced the new plastics, promoting both these awful balls and dust on the plastic ball boxes in their warehouses.  I was more than a little disappointed in this nonsense, considering that the quality status of these new balls was terrible when juxtaposed to the great celluloid balls.

Through the years I've accumulated anecdotal information from a number of non-asian countries on the approach to this situation, finding that, essentially, my prediction of the burn-through-the-celluloids strategy was embraced as described above.  It seems that many countries are just now transitioning to the plastic balls.  

Again, it seems, the USA stood out just when it shouldn't.  This is reminiscent of the USTTA banning of sponge rackets when they were introduced, immediately putting America way behind in table tennis development.  

The USA has consistently demonstrated confidence.

Thanks.   


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Yes, and they are terrible. Massive
reduction in spin and speed which means
you have to put a lot more effort into your topspin strokes.
The day when you kill the rally with 1 or 2 powerful topspin strokes (without boosting) is probably over.

Edited by jackwong23 - 10/05/2018 at 5:45am
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Same here in UK. Tournaments are sponsored by local TT vendors so, alas, until such vendors sell out their non-ABS ball inventory, we're stuck.

Edited by vvk1 - 10/05/2018 at 4:14am
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I find ABS balls much better. 
Unfortunatelly ,on most official tournaments here , we use old plastic balls instead of ABS balls. 

Have you switched to ABS ball ?


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