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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

You guys are terrible joker's lol, this is 2400+ imo...just look at the crazy shot quality.... 

crazy shot quality on predictable 3rd balls and completely useless on everything outside of third ball attack. these guys would stand little chance against the 2400+ crowd, i'm going 2200 at the max. 

edit: revised estimate. unlikely they are even 2300 


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Originally posted by Skyline Skyline wrote:

I just watched the first minute of the last video. And i can see two big differences already 1. There is a short game going on 2. Both players rally consistently.

Imho at the amateur level good looking strokes are not the way to define level.

I think the chinese have a more aggressive over the table style.
they always look for that full power forehand shot.
that's why the points don't last so much.

also the chinese are playing in the club more relaxed while 

Sid Naresh (2426) vs Matthew Lu (2400)

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I just watched the first minute of the last video. And i can see two big differences already 1. There is a short game going on 2. Both players rally consistently.

Imho at the amateur level good looking strokes are not the way to define level.
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to me they look higher than 2200 (just searched for a random 2200 video) ...


comparing to 2300 they also look a bit higher


for me they look similar to this



but they are young, in china, and show some little glimpses of high quality.

final veredict:
2400 aiming to 2500


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Originally posted by Vince64 Vince64 wrote:

I’m shocked that all the illegal serve police haven’t been all over this video yet. Every serve the guy in yellow does( I only watched about 2 games) he drops his ball hand below the table and the other guy except for his high toss serve is tossing the ball backwards into his body. Lol

I am normally in the Vanguard of the complaint unit, but I laid off and was too busy joking to mix in serious comments.

First thing I saw was one player serve practically backwards nearly all the time.
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Originally posted by balldance balldance wrote:

It’s so weird... these kids have very powerful and high quality shots with great advanced technique but at the same time they couldn’t keep the rallies going for just 6-7 shots for once in the entire clip, making countless unforced errors, which is very unusual for high level players (>2300). Many shots look 2400+ level but also too many errors look like 1800 level.

I guess they just practice the difficult shots and overlook basic stuff (?). They are not well trained Chinese players for sure because well trained players don’t play this way. They lost points too easily. Just amateur club players trying to play like CNT.

My guess is 2100-2200



yeh, they are just amateur players. I guess they got their framework right but they just don't have as much time as pro to practice to reduce unfored errors. They are around 1900s in chinese rating. Looks so maybe 2200 in us rating per input in this thread.
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Tough one. Quality is easily 2400, but I guess at worst 2350+
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I’m shocked that all the illegal serve police haven’t been all over this video yet. Every serve the guy in yellow does( I only watched about 2 games) he drops his ball hand below the table and the other guy except for his high toss serve is tossing the ball backwards into his body. Lol

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It’s so weird... these kids have very powerful and high quality shots with great advanced technique but at the same time they couldn’t keep the rallies going for just 6-7 shots for once in the entire clip, making countless unforced errors, which is very unusual for high level players (>2300). Many shots look 2400+ level but also too many errors look like 1800 level.

I guess they just practice the difficult shots and overlook basic stuff (?). They are not well trained Chinese players for sure because well trained players don’t play this way. They lost points too easily. Just amateur club players trying to play like CNT.

My guess is 2100-2200


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Return the third ball and you win the point. 2000-2200 depending on location.
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2300? Definitely not professional, or even close to it. But good enough to win in most clubs

Edited by cole_ely - 12/02/2020 at 9:21am
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Originally posted by Skyline Skyline wrote:

they dont look that good on the defence very hesistant and inconsistent

their rallying ability is also non existent


Edited by Skyline - 12/02/2020 at 8:50am
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they dont look that good on the defence very hesistant and inconsistent
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You guys are terrible joker's lol, this is 2400+ imo...just look at the crazy shot quality.... 
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Originally posted by BH-Man BH-Man wrote:

USATT 1200 all the way. Right. Sure. Obvious. Not.

That high! ?... Can't see it myself Wink
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USATT 1200 all the way. Right. Sure. Obvious. Not.
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