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Review: Timo Boll ZLC vs ZLF |
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super_tt
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Posted: 01/28/2009 at 11:30am |
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After practicing for several times, I would like to share my impression of these 2 blades. Layers: ZLC � 5+2, ZLF � 5+2 Thickness: ZLC � 5.6mm, ZLF � 5.4mm Weight: ZLC � 85g, ZLF � 80g Handle: Both are ST Rubbers: Both sides of Tenergy 05 were stuck on ZLC and ZLF My first impression was that the hitting feeling of ZLF is softer than ZLC. In addition, ZLC performs high speed than ZLF. But I can only say that different players would like to have different hitting feeling. Therefore, I think the performance is more critical for reference. Forehand practice: ZLF generates softer feeling while looping and better trajectory can be generated in comparison to ZLC. It is due to adequate dwell time for making full stroke of looping. Higher returning rate can be achieved during competition mode. When hitting and smashing, ZLF generates a bit vibration while exerting greater force. The reason may be that ZLF has thinner structure and the fiber layer is softer than ZL carbon. For ZLC, I feel stiffer feeling when looping and smashing. ZLC generates relatively less spin than ZLF due to the shorter dwell time and higher bouncing rate. You need to make full stroke of looping within a bit less time period than ZLF so that adequate spin can be generated. But I love the smashing power of ZLC. Flat trajectory and greater power is achieved. Your competitor will have less chance to return. If skillful player handles this blade, I think great spin and high speed will be achieved. Backhand practice: Absolutely, ZLF performs better control and better looping on backhand when receiving the ball. The returning and landing point can be controlled well. ZLF is good for the player with backhand looping style. ZLC performs acceptable control when receiving the ball. Relative flat trajectory than ZLF is experienced on backhand looping. However, as I mentioned before, ZLC also performs better smashing power on backhand. Limitations of ZLC and ZLF: The player may need to have full stroke of hitting on ZLF so that the power and speed can be generated. On the other hand, ZLC may require the player who mastered better looping skill and hand feeling so that the adequate spin can be performed. Conclusion: It�s all my personal opinion. It may not be available for everyone. It was concluded that ZLF is perfect for both-side looper and who can self-exert force in close table to achieve fast attack. ZLF is suitable for the player who is mainly playing with looping and sometimes smashing. Absolutely, ZLC is more powerful blade (in comparison with ZLF only). I would suggest the skillful player to try this blade. Speed: ZLC > ZLF Spin : ZLF > ZLC Hand feeling of looping: ZLF > ZLC (It is just my personal point of view) Hand feeling of smashing: ZLC > ZLF (It is just my personal point of view)
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super_tt
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hehe......my ZLC, ZLF and ALC
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lildudejds
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I use a MIzutani now and was thinking about getting a ZLF. But now I'm worried it will be too slow....
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Nexy Hannibal
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super_tt
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hi,
I was using MIzutani Jun before. I love the hitting and looping feeling of this blade. Since the outer ply is made of Limba. I feel the Koto ply of ZLC and ZLF are bit stiffer for me......
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lildudejds
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How much slower is the zlf than the mizutani?
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Nexy Hannibal
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super_tt
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hehe.....I try to explain with some figures
if mizutani = 90, then ZLF = 78
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lildudejds
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yikes. Probably too slow......Dang I was really excited about that blade too. And you would prefer Mizutani over the ZLC?
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Nexy Hannibal
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IAmI
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So how would you rate ALL 3 blades in terms of speed? Is the ALC in between the 2 maybe closer to the ZLC? As stiff as the ZLC or perhaps even stiffer?
Thanks super, nice reiew!
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super_tt
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In my opinion, if you have been using Mizutani.....absolutely, no need to go with ZLF.
As I have not practiced with Mizutani for a moment. I only remembered that the speed is closer
However, my 2 pcs of Mizutani are approx 91g but the ZLC only has 85g.....
Let me practice with Mizutani and ZLC again....then making conclusion
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super_tt
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I will seriously try ALC and get back to you all very soon
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speedy
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super_tt,
It's a GREAT review. I would say that your review met the Speedy's standard if it mean anything to you. |
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super_tt
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Hi Speedy
Thank you
I will try my best in future
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LOOPMEISTER
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Yes, great review...
Please do a review of the ALC vs. the ZLF... That's the review people have been waiting for on this message board! |
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shigzeo
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i do not really like butterfly but those are beautiful blades..
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Do you think that the Photino would have more dwell time because of the Hinoki outer plies or would the ZLF?
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lildudejds
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Photino has OODLES of dwell time if you pair it with the right rubbers. But since the zlf is slower, it might. The Photino is an awesome blade I just wish it was a tad bit thinner and lighter.
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Nexy Hannibal
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schumi27
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Do you prefer Mizutani over photino? Are they very different? |
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magnon09
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nice blades..and rubbers as well..
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super_tt
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I also like the racket case......it's my limitation edition
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lildudejds
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They are quite different. Mizutani has a lower throw angle, feels alot harder and crisper. Photino is softer, has more dwell time. Personally I don't find much of a different in speed. Actually, because of it's weight I think you can get more power out of a Photino. |
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IAmI
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Any new info super??
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speedy
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Yes, I like the case. It looks different. |
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super_tt
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Hi,
As I am busy on my work recently and will take serious test for alc asap |
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super_tt
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hi,
As I like the case therefore I bought this set of limited edition. But the price is a little expensive than i expected
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pokerpete
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I also like the racket case......it's my limitation edition
can u take a picture of the inside of the case? |
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Blade:Stiga Sense 7.6/ Timo ZLC FH: Tenergy 05FX BH: Tibhar Q5 Sound |
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super_tt
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hi Poker Here you go
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pokerpete
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ahhh.. it looks like it was a hard case from the outside....but its the plastic thing on the inside that makes it look hard then right?
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Blade:Stiga Sense 7.6/ Timo ZLC FH: Tenergy 05FX BH: Tibhar Q5 Sound |
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mizutani_jun
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how much the prices?
in USD?
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super_tt
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Exactly, the case is soft. Then the plastic bracket becomes a supporter
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super_tt
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It costs US$240
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